Geochecker vs evince

[marc_54140]

It seems that cachers in the north use Geochecker, while cachers around the Milwaukee and south use Evince.

Not sure why.

However, I find evince to be awkward to use. Often the verification code is so bad I can not make out the letters / numbers. And in some cases where I have felt I knew what they were, the verification came back saying I entered the wrong code.

I also do not like the ten minute delay on evince.

I have found that switching to another puzzle to verify coordinates does not work. Evince knows YOU, and there is a ten minute delay before entries.

Over all, really irritating!

[gotta run]

I believe the evince 10-minute rule only applies if you enter the wrong coordinates on the second try. In other words, you enter a wrong set of coordinates on the first try because you mis-typed, but you fix your error and enter the right set, it should verify you.

I’m not sure about going from cache to cache for different evince solutions. I guess we tend not to solve more than one puzzle every 10 minutes.

The reason we started using evince on our puzzle caches was that geochecker was simply behaving too slowly and unreliably. They may have added servers or otherwise fixed the problem over the past few months.

This thread may now proceed to devolve into the usual anti-puzzle rant. I’ll start…”well, you wouldn’t need a checker if you didn’t place puzzles…”

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[marc_54140]

Geochecker had a slow problem for a while, but has since added a lot of power, so it’s fast.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

So, does that mean that geochecker allows you to put in coord after coord until you get it right? That doesn’t sound right to me.

[gotta run]

10 tries in 10 minutes or an hour or something like that. I never hit against the limit because we always get it right the first time. 😳

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[marc_54140]

@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

So, does that mean that geochecker allows you to put in coord after coord until you get it right? That doesn’t sound right to me.

And what if you are working on several puzzles? Geochecker does not care which puzzles you are verifying. Evince does, and will lock you out of all puzzles after one attempt, until the time limit is up.

And do you really care if someone sits at his computer and plugs in set after set of coords looking for verification? I don’t.

[-cheeto-]

And do you really care if someone sits at his computer and plugs in set after set of coords looking for verification? I don’t.

Having more than 2 digits wrong makes this an almost impossible thing to do unless you have way too much time on your hands. Otherwise, if it’s a digit or 2, I see it as a perfectly legit way to solve it if the owner provides a coords checker. There are some puzzles where the solve can be tricky on some of the digits or there are differing research sources out there. I typically don’t do this until I’ve exhausted my options and am pulling what I have for hair out.

-cheeto-

[labrat_wr]

I think that I have only seen it once or twice that the cache owner has used the proximity allowance on Geochecker. Sure most caches have an exact answer but sometimes being off by one second here or there will not stop you from finding the cache.

Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

[gotta run]

@labrat_wr wrote:

Sure most caches have an exact answer but sometimes being off by one second here or there will not stop you from finding the cache.

Yeah but I still have some people b… complain because the coords are “off” by 10 feet…

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[Ry and Ny]

I don’t have a beef with 10 feet off, or even 30 feet off, but, for example, this is off by easily 60 feet and the vast majority of cachers looking for the cache have commented along that vein in their logs. Now, the listed coords lead you to a cluster of geobeacons, but the actual cache is in another one well away from the cluster. If I weren’t using Cachemate, I’d be pretty ticked off if I had headed out there for what should have been a relatively easy cache (listed as one star) where the coords appear to be purposely off or, at the very least, horribly maintained as it’s pretty impossible for the owner to not know they’re off.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

@marc_54140 wrote:

@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

So, does that mean that geochecker allows you to put in coord after coord until you get it right? That doesn’t sound right to me.

And what if you are working on several puzzles? Geochecker does not care which puzzles you are verifying. Evince does, and will lock you out of all puzzles after one attempt, until the time limit is up.

And do you really care if someone sits at his computer and plugs in set after set of coords looking for verification? I don’t.

No, I guess I don’t. But I also would not like it much if cachers were using geochecker to solve my puzzles that I spent so much time on. I’m not even sure if this is possible, in fact, it’s what I was asking.

[marc_54140]

@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

@marc_54140 wrote:

@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

So, does that mean that geochecker allows you to put in coord after coord until you get it right? That doesn’t sound right to me.

And what if you are working on several puzzles? Geochecker does not care which puzzles you are verifying. Evince does, and will lock you out of all puzzles after one attempt, until the time limit is up.

And do you really care if someone sits at his computer and plugs in set after set of coords looking for verification? I don’t.

No, I guess I don’t. But I also would not like it much if cachers were using geochecker to solve my puzzles that I spent so much time on. I’m not even sure if this is possible, in fact, it’s what I was asking.

To solve a puzzle this way would take a lot of key punching. Very unlikely someone would try it.

If you are missing only a few numbers though, well, then ……

[Team Honeybunnies]

There are at least a couple puzzles in the Valley that the looser constrictions of Geochecker helped me get. Say… 9 out of 10 are correct with unimpeachable resources, and I have one number that isn’t working. For whatever reason my source is different. Being able to go up and down the scale on one digit means I’ll get it solved that night and not shelve it, or forget it, or just move on to one of the 100 other puzzle caches in my nearest 500.

Plus the aforementioned point about multiple puzzles. I will usually work on puzzles in clusters and run several through the checker in a sitting. If I get one puzzle wrong, I’m done for my time-out period with Evince. I’ll usually go find something else to get done rather than wait. With Geochecker, I just move on to the next one. It’s really a matter of convenience.

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