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Barry Butrymowicz 16 years, 8 months ago.
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I have made it known so time ago to the WGA BoD that if and when High Cliff was selected as an event site ……
1. I would like to see the temp caches discontinued.
2. I would recruit local cachers to place lots of new permanent caches in the area – the park and beyond.
So ….. who out there is interested in placing some permanents?
I’ll place a few
Marc,
do you have placements in mind? there may be alot of chaos if a bunch of us put things out without knowing where the other placements are.Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
There will be a system in place, sometime down the way. Right now I’m interested in finding out who is willing to plant new caches.
/me raises his hand… (old school IRC chat reference)
I’m in….
Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
Call me old school, but I’m totally against placing perm’s in the parks for the purpose of holding an event.
There is only one reason to do so, and that is to increase numbers.
In the past, we’ve promised the parks that ALL our temps would be removed, and we would leave the park as we found it. If we start placing perms instead of temps, we can no longer leave the parks clean. We will have left a trail of caches that will keep accumulating. What do we do when we make subsesequent visits to the parks, keep adding more perms?
Word will then spread that when the WGA holds an event, the parks can expect to see a bunch of new permanant caches in our wake. While Geocaching IS allowed in the parks, I don’t think the managers want to be flooded with a bunch of new caches every time the WGA comes to town. It will become harder to get permission for events if we don’t clean up our mess.
Temp caches give people a quality geocaching experience, and a chance to reach all corners of a property. They can be creative, because they don’t have to stand the test of time, or weather the elements. They are removed at the end of the day/weekend, and give the park a chance to recover.
Hiding 40 temps, gives people an opportunity to spread out, and not be piled up at a cache with 20 people waiting to sign the log. If you hide perm’s in the park, there will need to be a lot less hides, and thus, more people will be at each cache site at the same time.
Temps afford the greatest geocaching, hiking, sight seeing opportunites. They miss one thing… They can’t be logged. Tough !
Get over the numbers folks. Enjoy nature and each other’s company. You don’t need a smiley to have a good time !
Could we have a combination of the two? Have a dozen new quality perms.(including puzzles) with 40 temps hidden in between the perms.
If permission is granted, then place away….
Oh, and that area is in need of more caches anyway. Take a look on the gc.com map once and you will see that there is not much reason for fox valley cachers to head around to the north-east and east side of Lake Winnebago (other than going all the way to Manitowoc). It would be cool if we could utilize an event like this to springboard a bunch of new permanent caches for everyone to hunt in that area (even those who don’t get to attend the event when it happens!)
-cheeto-
The other thing is, we have ample time to place the new parmament caches well in advance of the event so that it is not viewed as “the WGA came to town and left a bunch of trash”. Yeah, the event attendees might not get shots at a lot of new FTF honors but there will be a bunch of new and interesting hides. So for those who have visited the area before, something new to do and for those who have not, a mix of older caches and newer ones.
I agree with Cheeto with regard to placing the permanents ahead of time. LB7’s caches in Lapham Peak were a hit, both for the event and after. For those not used to placing caches on DNR property, please see the cache notification form on the Hiding a Cache page. You will find that on “highly managed properties”, like state parks, taking the time to meet with the ranger and get a feel for what they don’t want you to do. This can save you a lot of time going back and forth to place and remove caches, and also lets the rangers know that you are not going to abandon your cache after the event. Overall, the DNR has a positive impression of geocachers, so do your best to keep up our reputation.
@-cheeto- wrote:
The other thing is, we have ample time to place the new parmament caches well in advance of the event so that it is not viewed as “the WGA came to town and left a bunch of trash”. Yeah, the event attendees might not get shots at a lot of new FTF honors but there will be a bunch of new and interesting hides. So for those who have visited the area before, something new to do and for those who have not, a mix of older caches and newer ones.
Good points Cheeto. Great to spread them out, and just start placing them now, and as Dave says, check with the local park ranger about locations. I think that the DNR’s view of geocaching has evolved so that they see it now as another good thing to bring people into the parks, and enjoy the trails.
The biggest issue that park rangers have is not too many geocaches. Rather, their biggest issue is continuing to be able to fund their current staff levels in the face of an economic downturn, when too many people avoid the parks altogether, and just stay home and play with electronic toys and watch TV. Anything that gets people into the parks, is a good thing, for the people doing, and for the parks themselves.
zuma
@Team Deejay wrote:
For those not used to placing caches on DNR property, please see the cache notification form on the Hiding a Cache page. You will find that on “highly managed properties”, like state parks, taking the time to meet with the ranger and get a feel for what they don’t want you to do. This can save you a lot of time going back and forth to place and remove caches, and also lets the rangers know that you are not going to abandon your cache after the event. Overall, the DNR has a positive impression of geocachers, so do your best to keep up our reputation.
…once again I will point out that a few years back High Cliff had all caches in the park archived. Having placed a EC there last year, I can tell you that they are very careful with cache approvals…getting a large number approved there I think might be difficult. If you have plans to get caches in the park start the approval process early and keep reasonable expectations in terms of the amount that will be allowed.
Temps…….Anyone seen that horse lately???? Or that can of worms????
I see almost a dozen caches in the park, or in very close proximity.
With over 10,000 caches in the State, it’s hard to imagine there is a shortage in the area. It seems to me that if someone has found all the caches in N/E WI, they would make a good host to help organize and hide temps 😀
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