Lonely Cache Game – Cycle 2

[marc_54140]

Pete, who’s side are you on????

Any day ends in Y. So, I say yes, let’s go with that rule!

Oh, wait, I forgot about the cache maintenance issue again………

[seldom|seen]

Boy, with all the jibbing Sagasu’s been getting I’m almost glad I haven’t taken the lead this month! I’m all for the Sagasu Rule as well 🙂

Just a follow-up on the comments here-to-for concerning DNF’s and subsequent find logs. I too thought it a bit pointless to revisit a cache that’s hadn’t been DNF’d since a previous find only to claim points UNLESS there was an objective to the revisit.

One team revisited a cache to replace a log, move some stalled trackables and generally upkeep the lonely cache. Under the new rules, that wouldn’t be allowed.

I’m not sure that this is a good rule change. If you drive a half hour and find a lonely cache to discover that the container is broken and you have the capacity to fix and/or replace it, if you can get the owners permission, shouldn’t that motivate you to return and repair the cache? I suppose you could hold off on submitting the “found it” log until you get the cache replaced but that seems like a not so forthright way of going about it.

I come prepared with replacements and also contact the owners a few days before I know I’m going to have a look for theirs in case it is MIA or broken, but even then I’m not always able to communicate with the owners and most have appreciated the attention to their caches even after the fact.

The point of the game, as has been thoroughly vetted, is to give lonely some much needed attention and the rules should entice cachers to do so, not dissuade them from doing so. This is why I think multiple visits should be allowed, but only the specific points for the revisit should count. In the example above, I might consider it worthwhile to got back to a cache a half hour away to replace the container or add a baggie or pencil if it gets me a couple points and isn’t too far out of the way. But, by the same token, I don’t think I deserve the terrain and visit points since I’ve already done the hard part.

Guess I’m just going to have to be very prepared before I step out o f the house from now on…

From the standpoint of controlling the game a bit more, the rule change will help. I just hope that it does not counteract the whole intent of the game and prevent cachers from performing maintenance or replacements to better the quality of Wisconsin caches in general.

[Sagasu]

I’m for allowing the return visit reports in the Lonely Cache Game for the difference in points only. That is how Team Deejay originally explained how the scoring would work to me when I was hesitant to log and report a DNF if I felt I could do better with less snow or better preparation for obstacles encountered otherwise. I think DNFs and the log comments for them are useful for anyone else attempting to find some of the lonely caches, and that is good for all cachers who may help find or otherwise salvage a worthwhile hide that has become “lonely” for whatever reason.

I am more concerned about other kinds of return visits like confirms of caches found by a that cacher or another, or visited by the owner. Only one confirm should be allowed, and no others after a find, a confirm by someone else, a replacement (which some have also counted as a find), or an owner visit, whether logged as maintenance or otherwise. Even though the rules do allow for a confirm after a subsequent DNF, that may give undue credence to the search that resulted in a DNF. I sure don’t find all the caches that I seek that are really there, and wonder if more than one consecutive DNF would be a better way to justify that kind of reporting.

As far as the Sagasu rule, I think travel beyond the 60 mile range will get pretty costly just to play a game, and there will be other monthly winners soon, maybe even yet for February. For now, Sagasu’s family and friends will be happy to hear that while the days ending with Y rule seems a little steep, that any day not starting with an F or T will be given a voluntary moratorium on seeking (not reporting) lonely caches.

[seldom|seen]

And the first cycle comes to a close with a final push today.

Couple questions:

Are you going to add a Winner’s page?
When will the list be updated?

[gkrone]

@seldom|seen wrote:

And the first cycle comes to a close with a final push today.

Couple questions:

Are you going to add a Winner’s page?
When will the list be updated?

Where will the list be posted?
If posted on GC will it be available to non-premium members?

[marc_54140]

@gkrone wrote:

@seldom|seen wrote:

And the first cycle comes to a close with a final push today.

Couple questions:

Are you going to add a Winner’s page?
When will the list be updated?

Where will the list be posted?
If posted on GC will it be available to non-premium members?

gkrone, this is only a Wisconsin game, so the info, list, etc will be on the WGA site. No preminum membership necessary.

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