May I grumble?

[Mister Greenthumb]

If you’re biking on the Bugline in Lisbon the first parking lot that you come to in Lisbon Community Park has a path to the trail. The trail goes west 1 mile to Merton from there and as far east as you want to go. There is a parking lot for the trail in Sussex on Waukesha Avenue, but that is closed to traffic for the summer due to road construction. I will have two new caches on the Bugline near the Lisbon Park next weekend for my event there on the 27th. Hope to see some of you there. I have 10 temps in place for the event and there will be 5 or 6 new permanent hides in the area that I will be submitting for publication on that day.

[LDove]

Thanks Mr. G! That is very helpful. Especially about the road construction. Wish we could make the birthday party, but unfortunately I have to work. Thanks for placing more permanent caches!

[Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu]

@LDove wrote:

FU – I would LOVE to see the video, you got the link? Thanks for the tip for DD, will have to e-mail him.

I’ll e-mail it to ya!!

[PCFrog]

I’ve already put one or two local caches on ignore due to no trail head/parking coordinates. Finding a place to put the car and trespassing inadvertently should not be part of the caching experience.

[gotta run]

@LDove wrote:

😕 With gas prices so high, it sure would help if folks put the trail head/parking coordinates on their listings. ❗ Caching out of town a few weeks ago, this drove me nuts trying to figure out where to get to the cache without cutting through someone’s back yard, etc.

How about a related grumble? When you put the parking and/or trailhead coordinates in there but people just ignore them anyway because boy it sure looks closer if I just drive/park HERE instead?

I don’t know if this is a phenomenon of number running/power caching, but we’ve had several instances of logs, on different caches, that made it clear they took a “shortcut” to the cache (either explicitly in the posting, or implicitly since there’s no way they could have done it otherwise), when there is no shortcut to the cache other than to trespass…

On the Left Side of the Road...

[Team Deejay]

@PCFrog wrote:

I’ve already put one or two local caches on ignore due to no trail head/parking coordinates. Finding a place to put the car and trespassing inadvertently should not be part of the caching experience.

Actually, I think you will find that most of the old timers would disagree here. Sometimes owners place caches where the biggest challenge is finding out how to access the location. After all, how many times have we bushwacked through thorns to a cache location, only to see a developed trail only 20 feet from the cache. All part of the game.

On the other hand, I did one over the weekend which had posted trailhead coordinates. Of course, it wasn’t the closest trailhead to the cache, involving a quarter mile walk down a road, but it did eventually lead to the cache. Pretty sneaky, eh?

[PCFrog]

@Team Deejay wrote:

Actually, I think you will find that most of the old timers would disagree here. Sometimes owners place caches where the biggest challenge is finding out how to access the location. After all, how many times have we bushwacked through thorns to a cache location, only to see a developed trail only 20 feet from the cache. All part of the game.

In a park or forest I agree that part of the fun. But when your talking about a cache that is placed in a neighborhood park/walking trail that only has a few access points, a parking area or trail head marking is, in my opinion appropriate, to prevent cachers (strangers) from wondering around aimlessly and crossing into people yards.

One of the caches I ignored is a perfect example of this. The cache tells you what road to go down but that is it. The road leads right into the neighborhood. Several times My wife and I tried to find a trail head with no luck. In desperation we even asked some of the homeowners where is the walking trail. Needless to say after asking 3-4 of them and getting that odd look we gave up. Some of the logs that others who found the cache even mention possibly walking across private property.

[LDove]

PC, I can’t tell you how many times that exact scenerio has happened to me. I definitely do not want to wander onto someone else’s property by accident – I had this happen once as a newbie. I was looking for a trail near the Sussex area and found what I thought was a trail and parking spot. I had a very angry homeowner come after me, a long story, but the bottom line is he freaked me out so bad I went home and bought pepper spray the next day. That is why I really want to be sure I am parked where I should be and know where I should be going in. The park ones are different and I can see TDJ point also, but I have learned after many swamp mishaps to STAY ON THE TRAIL and not take short-cuts anymore, nope! 🙄

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