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Originally posted by Trudy & the beast:
Originally posted by wzbt03:
Of course everyone is a little bit right about this subject.
No one should be allowed to use words we would find profane (the notorious 4 letter ones) on the forum.
In the case of the letter that was deleted, I do not remember any four letter words used.Agreed, there was no profanity used.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
Another point that disturbs some of us is that the WGA “administrators” feel this is their own forum and they have the right to lock topics at will and censor if the subject matter does not suit them.The right to moderate, edit, delete, belongs first to Elknet, secondly to the WGA and thirdly to the users of the forums. The rights of the administrators, moderators or directors are granted to them by the membership of the WGA.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
I am quite sure the majority of members of WGA do not agree with the board members having this right without full review by the entire board. Thats why we have 9 of you on the board isn’t it?The post in question was deleted in concurrence with a majority of the board. There was no descent.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
So lets honestly discuss this, the letter deleted pointed out that one member of the board was going a bit far with their advice on behalf of the board and speaking for the board. The author of the deleted letter challenged them on this and was promptly censored.The post in question was taken as an unprovoked personal attack, destructive in nature.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
This is not about four letter words, its about the board or a board member not liking being criticized. So lets quit making people think that some obscene letter was deleted.This was never suggested by the board.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
The idea of not saying what you would when face to face with the person is great also, and I think the author of the letter would have said the same things as in the letter, face to face.The author of the post in question may have said these things face-to-face, but I would hope that we would have more tact than that. This would not have changed the nature of the message.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
If the board does not agree and feels the forum is for them to decide about, lets have an online poll of what the membership thinks.
I think everyone knows how this would turn out so it really is not needed.That is what our annual elections are about.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
On the email idea, I did trade emails with a board member recently and their letter contained a profane word in it. Just goes to show you that we are not safe anywhere.That sounds like a personal matter between you and the board member you were corresponding with.
Since this entire thing was written about me I aske this: If my post was indeed deleted because it was deemed as a personal attack, how is this post, by a WGA Board Member, not an attack on me? Each question raised by wzbt03 was shot down and numerous references were made to my post and about the “author” of the post. So…how about deleting your post Ray?
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Originally posted by Trudy & the beast:Originally posted by wzbt03:
The idea of not saying what you would when face to face with the person is great also, and I think the author of the letter would have said the same things as in the letter, face to face.The author of the post in question may have said these things face-to-face, but I would hope that we would have more tact than that. This would not have changed the nature of the message.[/B]
The author of this post, me, would have absolutely said the same things to the face of the person she, me, was referring to! “…but I would hope that we would have more tact than that…?” You can’t have it both ways! Either you want me to talk to the person in question, via email, in person, whatever…or you don’t! I wasn’t attacking a person…I was questioning forum posts…it was turned into something else when someone felt like I was stepping on toes!
If someone is afraid of what may come as a result of their posting, they shouldn’t post! The whole thing was taken out of context by the board, passed back and forth without speaking to me about it, deleted and is now blown WAAAAAAAYYYY out of proportion because other WGA members want to know what happened. (and BTW…I have sent copies of the post in question to those have asked for it…in a private email of course) We’re all being asked to be respectful of others but we’re not being afforded the same courtesy.
MajorBratI would like a copy if one is still available.
Team GeoPink
– Jeff
Co-conspirator to make the world a better place…As long as 4-letter words such as WORK or DIET weren’t used, I can handle just about anything that is posted on this board. I like the debates, I like that we don’t always all agree. We aren’t a cult — we don’t have to be of the same mind. We don’t even have to like one another.
The purpose (in my eyes) of this message board is to discuss issues related to WISCONSIN and GEOCACHING.
I think if you don’t like something related to those two issues, you should be able to “vent” and be open to getting everyone else’s opinion.Some people are much more comfortable being direct about things that bug them (or conversely, things they love dearly) and I can respect that. My heritage is far too Swiss for me to be anything but neutral (on most things) and way too introverted to express those things that really tick me off.
I look at these boards as a geocache — if you take something, leave something of similar or better value. Don’t leave trash, and please no dangerous objects!
Continue to discuss openly guys — I’ll keep reading. Much like a “lame” cache, I won’t visit if it doesn’t seem like a good time.
…most of the time I’m not sure if I’m even making enough logical sense to post anything. That might be the same thing in this post…
Bec
I look at these boards as a geocache — if you take something, leave something of similar or better value. Don’t leave trash, and please no dangerous objects!
That is the single most intelligent sentence I’ve seen written on these boards in a long time!
Keep your thoughts coming, we need all the positive and insightful comments we can get!
Team GeoPink
– Jeff
Co-conspirator to make the world a better place…quote:
Originally posted by arcangl7:
That is the single most intelligent sentence I’ve seen written on these boards in a long time!Keep your thoughts coming, we need all the positive and insightful comments we can get!
Well, that’s it for my intelligent comments for the month…DANG!! and I have final exams coming up!
Bec
i’ve seen it written in so many logs……..”it’s all in the approach”
wise words.
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Originally posted by greyhounder:
As long as 4-letter words such as WORK or DIET weren’t used, I can handle just about anything that is posted on this board. I like the debates, I like that we don’t always all agree. We aren’t a cult — we don’t have to be of the same mind. We don’t even have to like one another.The purpose (in my eyes) of this message board is to discuss issues related to WISCONSIN and GEOCACHING.
I think if you don’t like something related to those two issues, you should be able to “vent” and be open to getting everyone else’s opinion.Some people are much more comfortable being direct about things that bug them (or conversely, things they love dearly) and I can respect that. My heritage is far too Swiss for me to be anything but neutral (on most things) and way too introverted to express those things that really tick me off.
I look at these boards as a geocache — if you take something, leave something of similar or better value. Don’t leave trash, and please no dangerous objects!
Continue to discuss openly guys — I’ll keep reading. Much like a “lame” cache, I won’t visit if it doesn’t seem like a good time.
…most of the time I’m not sure if I’m even making enough logical sense to post anything. That might be the same thing in this post…
Bec
That was awesome Bec.
~Mel
well said Bec … nothing like a good analogy!
to digress (sorry the 4 letter word DIET, made me think of food, and made me do a 180) … when you say your SWISS, is that more like the Cheese or like the Cocoa?
Cheese and cocoa! That’s why the word DIET offends me so much!
(and you’ve never lived until you’ve had a good ol’ Swiss Raclette party…)
Bec
I’ll go along with that Bec.
I loooooooove swiss cheese … if we are somewhere and I see something with swiss, that’s what I get.Maybe next time I’m at an event … I will bring cocoa with swiss cheese swizzle sticks!
OK… I have been so darn busy working on our outing to do the Guantlet,that I missed this whole thread. I would be interested in a copy of the post in question. I am a person whole weighs both sides fairly and be interested in seeing just what the issue is about. People have been calling me Mrs. Dr. Phil lately!! LOL
“Da Fu”
You know you’re REALLY lost when even the GPS gives up on you! LOL
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