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I’m posting this for kent1915 because he is having trouble getting through to the forums.
Hello all-
After getting some feedback on Groundspeak forum, I set up a yahoo group that has info on the hazards that methamphetamine cook dumps pose to those of us who wander the woods looking for tupperware. The link is below if you are interested.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cacheinfo/joinKent
I read this and appreciate the common sense. But…
1. Has this been a problem in Wisconsin? Have there been incidents?
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I thought the state legislature fixed this by requiring a photo id and a runny nose before you can buy sudafed. 3. While at the Stonehaven outing, Genius Loci(Joe) was a member of our group. We had to reach into a spot where we could not see. Joe pulled out a rubber glove suitable for a cavity search.
We laughed. Then mentally I made a note to buy a box.
Meth is a problem in some areas of our state, more so in the boonies. We don’t see as many problems in the S/E part of the state. Possibly because there are other drugs more readily available.
I was in Eau Claire last week for a Law Enforcement seminar and some of the local officers were talking about some of their meth experiences. I guess they have some local labs in the area and busted a decent sized lab a couple weeks ago.
Funny thing is that besides sudafed pills, lithium batteries are somehow used in the process. No wonder it makes the junkies teeth fall out.
This could explain all the sudafed wrappers, battery wrappers and human teeth i’ve been finding along the trails. Here I thought a poor cacher had a runny nose and while changing their watch battery on the trail, they fell and knocked out their teeth
While wondering one day Mole and I found something related to this topic that’s now under investigation, oddly enough. While we weren’t impressed with the competence level of the local PD, I’m not sure this deserves a forum. It’s been our experience that if you find something of questionable nature in a park, your local park staff will get the ball rolling much faster and with less hassle than trying to get the police involved.
This is a very serious problem up here in the boonies (and I’m not even that far into the boonies.) Barron County is particularly bad and I get the impression that the further out one is, the worse it is. My husband taught at the Barron High School last year and heard first hand a lot about meth labs from the school cop. It is a very big concern here. Recently, the schools and communities have provided public forums for education on the issue.
One of the biggest problems is that the local police forces are not set up to handle this type of problem. They don’t have the manpower or equipment to properly dispose of the labs when they find them. They also don’t have the manpower to handle the level of agression of the criminals involved. Local police forces (which in the boonies means the County Sheriff) are more used to responding to domestic abuse, drunk driving and bar fights. When you have maybe only four cars policing an entire county, it is hard to keep tabs on everything that is going on out in the woods.
Our county 4-H normally does a roadside cleanup program in the spring. We were asked to cancel it this year due to the possibility of garbage from meth labs. (And I thought dead animals, used condoms and questionable fluids in sport drink bottles was bad enough.)
It doesn’t take long to be out in the middle of nowhere where no one will notice what is going on or what you dump out your car window.
I don’t think I’m being overly paranoid. I’ve seen the incidence of this rise dramatically over that past couple of years. We don’t have a lot of other crime to report on here so we get a lot of news on major meth lab busts. The regional drug force seems to have changed their focus from setting up stings on Minneapolis dealers to busting local major meth labs. (Even in an Eau Claire hotel – not the one you’re staying in this week, Brian. )
Maybe my concern is more personal, too. A former coworker’s son became a meth addict and committed suicide three years ago.
[This message has been edited by bnb (edited 05-18-2005).]
+1 to what BNB said. When I first moved up here last august I was surprised to hear news about meth labs as frequently as I did. I’m in Washburn Co.
Good Grief! What next?? No, wait… I don’t even want to know.
bnb-
Thanks for listing my post. I have it working now. Like Grousetail, I was at the same conference last week. However, I have been dealing with this stuff for a couple years here. In the last 5 years I am aware of a couple clandestine labs raided that had done a bunch of cooks. Aside from dumping their stuff down ice fishing holes in the winter, they love to dump in the woods and state parks in the summer.Kent
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Our county 4-H normally does a roadside cleanup program in the spring. We were asked to cancel it this year due to the possibility of garbage from meth labs. (And I thought dead animals, used condoms and questionable fluids in sport drink bottles was bad enough.)That’s really sad…..I would still try to do the clean-up….
Maybe just have the older 4-Hers participate….consider giving them a quick 15 min discussion on what to avoid…
You could even create an better enviroment and have the chance to have a “anti-drug” speaker present……even a 4-H or Scout is at risk…..
I was active in Scouts and 4-H for many years…..I seen lots of issues with members.
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Originally posted by Kitch:
That’s really sad…..I would still try to do the clean-up….Maybe just have the older 4-Hers participate….consider giving them a quick 15 min discussion on what to avoid…
You could even create an better enviroment and have the chance to have a “anti-drug” speaker present……even a 4-H or Scout is at risk…..
I was active in Scouts and 4-H for many years…..I seen lots of issues with members.
Actually, considering the types of stuff we have found along the roads in the past, I think the roadside cleanup should always have been just for the older kids – wearing rubber gloves.
We still did a cleanup, but we did it in Chippewa Falls around the downtown area. We took advantage of the Main Street organization’s Earth Day cleanup.
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