New Caches in Central WI

[teameverest]

Two caches just published in Central Wisconsin on the Wood CTY / Marathon CTY line. A couple of real goodies 😆

– The Battle of Smoky Hill – GCZBZ4 located in the Mead Wildlife Area

– Gilligan’s Island – GC1KR1C located near Big Eau Pleine Park west of Mosinee, WI

Have at em 😀

[Team Black-Cat]

I respectfully suggest your maintenance on existing caches has been terrible. After two years of ignoring your existing caches, and not responding to emails, I’m not thrilled to see more being placed.

[teameverest]

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

I respectfully suggest your maintenance on existing caches has been terrible. After two years of ignoring your existing caches, and not responding to emails, I’m not thrilled to see more being placed.

As explained in my earlier post in the ‘General’ section, our team is comprised of college students who put in 60 hour weeks and are spread out 8 months of the year.

We have been geocaching for quite some time and enjoy it together when we are all home and do our best to keep up on our hobby. But life will be life and priorities must be set.

Emails were not ignored, but rather I lost my password and didn’t set a reminder on the email account, therefore I couldn’t get to it. I now have fixed this.

If our situation of being back and active in the geocaching community and offering new exciting caches for you nearby and enabling archived ones that were muggled or broke down over time isn’t exciting, then I’m sorry.

We do our best…..

[Team Black-Cat]

I’m not sure if you lost your password to your GC account or your email account. I find it hard to believe you lost them both…

It’s not that I’m not excited by new caches. Far from it. My point was and is that instead of announcing “We’re Back!” on the forums, perhaps you could take care of the broken container on Line Pine, or replace the missing log on Middle of Nowhere. Sandhill has water in it. Where George was a sloppy, moldy mess when we found it. Westlund is on the cache rescue list to verify removal. Geometry was recently removed by Mathman and OPS. The Lost Boyscout Kool-Whip container had frost in it. This is going to be pretty bad in the spring. New caches are great, but finding moldy trash in the woods is not.

Had ANY of these been addressed before your announcement, I may have been a little more receptive. I sincerly hope you are able to make me feel the need to appologize some day.

[teameverest]

As you were writing your post, two of those archived caches on our list
have been fixed.

Your welcome….. 8)

[team handstand]

whenever i go out and notice that a log is missing, or wet.. or a container has a hole in it…. i like to replace it with a new one.. just my way of saying.. “hey, i want other people to enjoy this as much as i do” then i leave a message to the owner saying that i had replaced it for them.. if i hear from them.. that’s nice.. if not… that’s ok too because i know other people will enjoy my maintence.

just a thought.

[gotta run]

@teameverest wrote:

two of those archived caches on our list
have been fixed.

Your welcome….. 8)

“As the cache owner, you are also responsible for physically checking your cache periodically, and especially when someone reports a problem with the cache (missing, damaged, wet, etc.).

Your maintenance plan must allow for a quick response to reported problems.”

Is over a year after force-archiving quick? I guess that’s open to interpretation.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[teameverest]

@gotta run wrote:

@teameverest wrote:

two of those archived caches on our list
have been fixed.

Your welcome….. 8)

“As the cache owner, you are also responsible for physically checking your cache periodically, and especially when someone reports a problem with the cache (missing, damaged, wet, etc.).

Your maintenance plan must allow for a quick response to reported problems.”

Is over a year after force-archiving quick? I guess that’s open to interpretation.

Better late than never…

[Team Black-Cat]

Thank you, Team Everest, for deleting my found log on one of your archived caches. You are showing your maturity and good intentions. Please feel free to delete any other found logs of mine if you feel the need to.

[team handstand]

We are all here for the same reason. There is no need to act this way. It looks as though these frigid temps are starting to get to us.

[teameverest]

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

Thank you, Team Everest, for deleting my found log on one of your archived caches. You are showing your maturity and good intentions. Please feel free to delete any other found logs of mine if you feel the need to.

The cache owner will assume all responsibility of their cache listings.

The responsibility of your listing includes quality control of posts to the cache page. Delete any logs that appear to be bogus, counterfeit, off topic, or not within the stated requirements.

Your post stated you did not sign the logbook and you made another ‘apparent’ off-topic remark on the condition of the cache. With these I can not verify you were there.

Since in the rules it states I assume all responsibility for my cache listing including quality control of the posts on the page. I made the judgement to delete your post because it is unverifiable in addition to your off-topic post after your initial log.

I re-read the Cache Listing Requirements / Guidelines again and thought I would excercise my rights as the caches owner.

Thanks for the nudge to take responsibility for my caches…..

[labrat_wr]

@gotta run wrote:

Your maintenance plan must allow for a quick response to reported problems.”

This would be something that the Maintenance selection on the Cache Rescue submission could be helpful. Something that many didn’t know existed until recently. Check it out. (not intended as a “dis” but something I think all owners that may not be able to make it out to their caches quickly could do)

Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

[Team Black-Cat]

@teameverest wrote:

Thanks for the nudge to take responsibility for my caches…..

You are making a very good impression. There are at least four months of finders that were unable to sign the log that you chose not do delete. It’s obvious that responsibility had nothing to do with your decision.
(GCT0D2)
Reply if you want, but I’m done.

[teameverest]

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

@teameverest wrote:

Thanks for the nudge to take responsibility for my caches…..

You are making a very good impression. There are at least four months of finders that were unable to sign the log that you chose not do delete. It’s obvious that responsibility had nothing to do with your decision.
(GCT0D2)
Reply if you want, but I’m done.

Your right, others were much more on-topic with their posts and not trolling my cache listing to complain, some even trying to leave make-shift logs in the cache while I was not attending to it. You know, a little ‘geocourtesy’ as Team Handstand suggested.

I’ll give them benefit of the doubt

But you TBC, I hold you to the utmost pinnacle of the regulations since you hold my feet to the fire the same way.

Others….

Get the benefit

Maybe when I’m not here at school we can sit down for tea and crumpets, no?

[One Paddle Short]

Hey Team Everest,

I have to compliment you on hiding some of my favorite caches in the area. You folks hide my kind of cache- long hikes into the most wild areas in central Wisconsin. Lone Pine was my first trip to the middle of 9 Mile and Sandhill Wetland a hike with the first spring frogs creating a symphony of wild while I hiked in through water and ice (and I would have NEVER visited that spot without a cache there). I am big fan of young people spending time outdoors and not sitting at the mall texting one another between stores. And I’m pleased after watching the YouTube video of you hiding one of the new ones that you put out an ammo can- ’cause those Folgers cans don’t last long out in the wild.

But it would be better if cache owners were around to take care of maintenance issues rather than depending on the other cachers in the area to pick up their archived caches, add logbooks, check on missing caches, etc. Even if you couldn’t get around to taking care of stuff quickly it would help if you would at least answer email or check the listing once in a while and post a note that you won’t get around to checking stuff for a while and could somebody help out. It’s sad that Lone Pine is again just the remains of a cache container hanging in a tree with no log. It’s too good of a cache and deserves better. You can’t deny that you folks tend to hide some new caches during winter break, and then disappear for the rest of the year (or couple of years). And yeah, I can understand with college and all- and I suspect I would have been much the same way if there had been geocaching when I was in college, or even GPSr’s, or laptop computers, or cell phones,…(I’ll stop before it gets even more depressing for me and amusing for you…).

It gets frustrating for folks when caches are missing or moldy and nobody is around to confirm whether it’s still there, or to change out the logbook, or to share a hint or two. And when there are listings on the cache rescue page- you probably don’t even know what that is (check the link to the left, it’s when an archived cache with an absent owner needs someone to go pick up the pieces so we as geocachers don’t leave trash in the woods) by teams hiding new caches, well…

Most folks around here are a good sort (though ’bout half of ’em have very strange taste in logo design that I can’t understand). But they can get a little tense and terse about caching because they’re really into it.

In any case, thanks for the new caches. I’m sure I’ll get out there and experience another new area soon thanks to you. Try to check on your listings more often, and fix up those good ones when you get a chance. Also, don’t forget that, unlike when you started caching, there are now a lot of caches around to go after- and good out-in-the-woods caches too. Check out any of Mathman’s series in the county forests. You guys would love ’em. Just the kind of headlamp in the night through the deep snow cache that geocaching needs. TBC has a great series in Brokaw too. In fact, check out my snowshoe listing of area caches that make great winter cache destinations. Something to think about anyway.

Good luck at school. I’ve never had crumpets. Good?

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