Opinion on travel bug logging

[penguin13]

What is the opinion of logging travel bugs into and out of a cache that is virtual or not found or not even attempted? Normally I wouldn’t think of doing this, but here’s the situation. I have a travel bug that we took to Costa Rica. When we were there, we were only able to go to an Earthcache. When I logged the Earthcache find, it didn’t give the options of dropping a bug in, even though I would have picked it back up right away. If it had been a virtual I could have dropped and picked up. We did actually look for a container cache/bag of travel bugs nearby, but didn’t find it. And now that cache has been completely archived, so I probably couldn’t drop and pick up there either. It would be nice to have a record on the TB page that it went to Costa Rica and have the map show it and everything. There are other caches we came close to but just didn’t have the time to break away from the tour to find them. So would it be legit/ethical/moral to log a TB into any of the container caches and pick up? Or should I just leave my note and picture and let it go?

[Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu]

Personally, I don’t think a virtual is something a cacher should be logging a TB in and out of, since there is no actual container, nor should they be doing so to a cache they have not visited.

Some people take TB’s and log them in and out of every cache they visit. If the TB can actually FIT into the cache I think they should just move it on, into one cache of choice. (Unless it is their very own TB, I should say).

There are TB’s such as MY SELF…yes I am an actual TB, as I have my # tattooed on my ankle, which I then log myself into events and usually one cache per state I visit. I also make myself available for others to “Discover”. I do it for the fun of seeing how may miles I travel and to see the surprise on cachers faces when they see it. Why did I do it originally?? I got tired of people stealing TB’s and not moving them on, so I made sure THIS one would get stole. LOL Unless some nice Aussie wants to take me back to Australia or New Zealand.

[PCFrog]

I had a TB that I used to track my miles I went for caching but stopped just do to the extra work it took to always drop and pick it back up per cache. Anyhow, I dropped this TB into every cache that I hit regardless of type, regular, micro, virtual, ect… I did not however drop mine or any TB into a cache that I did not visit.

Each person has their way and own set of rules that they follow themselves. I have seen post on GC.com that people who travel with a TB post a note on a cache near airports to log that the TB was in the area.

My short answer is decided what you want to do and go with it.

[CBMB]

We have a couple of bugs that travel with us. We log them in and out of most caches we visit. If the cache in Costa Rica is archived it shouldn’t matter. Just log a note and date it the same as the original “found it” log. Write “bug drop” in the text area and drop the bug in. YOu can then pick it up.

As for the logging of things in and out of caches…virtual or not…What’s the difference in that and passing a bug around for several others to “discover” before taking it back with you? At least if the bug was with you at the virtual, it was WITH YOU and not someone else! Log the bug! Let it have the miles it deserves!
MB

[LightningBugs Mum]

I think the problem is that you can’t drop a bug into an Earthcache and that is the only cache they successfully did there.

What would I do? Hmmmmm. I don’t see anything wrong with logging it into and out of that missing / archived cache, as long as you don’t claim a find when you do so. And, yes, it is possible to write a note / drop a bug / whatever on an archived cache. I would just be very clear in your note on the cache page about what you are doing and why. Then explain when you pick up the TB what you are doing and why as well.

It would be a shame for the bug not to get all those miles.

[penguin13]

Thanks for the input! I’ll need to make my decision by tonight, so I can get this little TB back in a cache.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

I agree with the others here. Give the TB it’s miles by logging it in. If we start taking this sport to seriously, it just won’t be fun anymore. I sometimes wish that all the stats of individual cahers/teams would only be visible to the cachers/teams themselves for tracking purposes. Then, none of this would matter, nor would any of the other issues that seem to pop up.

Have fun and enjoy, to me this is what it’s all about! 😀

[Cheesehead Dave]

I have a personal coin that I log into every cache I find, physical or virtual. I feel it falls under the “It’s not affecting anyone, except those that seem to be continually unbunching their undies.”

Although I only log it into caches I’ve actually found.

[hogrod]

There is virtual coins/bugs, travel bugs that got lost and the owner made it so people could still log them as moving. on the same note there is also coins/bugs that only want to visit virtual caches. so I see no problem doing what you want, it’s not like your hurting anyone.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

@Cheesehead Dave wrote:

I have a personal coin that I log into every cache I find, physical or virtual. I feel it falls under the “It’s not affecting anyone, except those that seem to be continually unbunching their undies.”

Although I only log it into caches I’ve actually found.

Could not have said it better myself! 😆 [/img]

[Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu]

@hogrod wrote:

on the same note there is also coins/bugs that only want to visit virtual caches. so I see no problem doing what you want, it’s not like your hurting anyone.

Good point about the TB and coins visiting virtuals. I guess if the TB/coin owner states what they want done, then let it be.

I don’t see a problem with the Owner logging in and out of the caches they do either. The ones that are… well….disappointing I guess I could say(?)…are the TB’s that one person grabs from a cache and takes to “umpteen” different caches, then finally after an exhausting amount of time, drops it off for good in a cache. I have had that happen on one of mine. It’s ok… and really no biggy…but I guess I would rather see it be picked up from one cache and dropped off somewhere for another cacher to move on. I suppose it all depends on the owner too. Is the owner looking to see how many caches it visits, the miles it puts on or the destinations???

Best way to get that problem fixed I guess is, for ME, as a TB owner, to be more responsible and specific on the goal for the TB.

Otherwise let people do as the please…EXCEPT FOR KEEPING IT!!! 😀

[PCFrog]

“Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFuI don’t see a problem with the Owner logging in and out of the caches they do either. The ones that are… well….disappointing I guess I could say(?)…are the TB’s that one person grabs from a cache and takes to “umpteen” different caches, then finally after an exhausting amount of time, drops it off for good in a cache.

I have to say I’ve done this once for sure might been twice but not sure. This was due to the fact I could not find a cache that the TB would fit into. So, I figured if I’m going to drag this TB from one cache to another to find it a home I’m going to mark that is what I did. It was part of the TB history that I could not find a container that was big enough.

But I would agree that while a TB might be in my bag I only log it in the cache that I intend it to go in. The other time was a special circumstance.

[Team B Squared]

@Cache_boppin_BunnyFuFu wrote:

The ones that are… well….disappointing I guess I could say(?)…are the TB’s that one person grabs from a cache and takes to “umpteen” different caches, then finally after an exhausting amount of time, drops it off for good in a cache.

Ok, hypothetical. Say I pick up your tb in the morning while on an all day caching blitz. I keep it with me all day, and then at (or near) the conclusion of the caching day I drop it in a cache. Would you have a problem with me logging it in and out of each cache it visited with me during the course of that day? (keeping in mind that it is your tb)

The reason I ask is that I have done this before, thinking that the owner might think it would be neat to see all of the different places that the tb has been with my team throughout the day. I have done this before, and am now wondering if it is bad form.

In this situation we are talking about picking up the tb and dropping it off in the same day, not holding onto it for 2 weeks so that it could come with on our adventures during that span of time. Just curious, thanks 😀

[abcdmCachers]

I assume you are talking about Volcan Poas and Sit’in on the top of the world? Believe it or not, we were there last summer – small world. IMO, I think it would be fine if you logged it into Volcan Poas (archived) – you were probably only 100 feet away from that cache’s location anyway. On the other hand, if you wanted to log it in to a cache that was miles away in a location you didn’t visit, then I’d think twice.

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