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- [*]Having a definition of what a cache is sounds like a good idea. I have a couple of reservations with the first draft. First, I’m hesitant to include the word ammo in any context going to the DNR. I’d also rather not mention micro or virtual to them, as it may give them an idea about only allowing those types of caches. How about something along these lines?
A “Geocache” is any small to medium weather resistant container which is hidden from public sight by placing under deadfall, bark, or rocks, and whose location is published on the Internet for other people to find. The containers serve the purpose of providing a place to store small trade items and/or logbooks. The intent of a Geocache is often to bring the cache seeker to a scenic park or interesting place, and to provide a quality outdoor experience. Geocaches are intentionally placed by their owners and are NOT abandoned property. The owner is responsible for its maintainence and upkeep.
[*]I completely agree with the rewording in item 2 and the reasons for the change.[*]Agree[*]Agree[*]Agree[/list]
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited 09-18-2002).]
These last two comments are very good, and I especially like Cachecows definition. This is heading in a very positive direction which I feel could be acceptable to the DNR, and could be a model for others. Is there any thought to another meeting before it is presented to DNR?
I also like the Cows definition of a Geocache. What if we took out the 1st line which states it is a small to medium sized container. Size is relative and probably doesnt matter. We could also remove the line about it being hidden under a tree, bark, or rock. We could just say it is hidden from public site. Here is what it would like with those 2 lines removed:
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A “Geocache” is a weather resistant container which is hidden from public sight and whose location is published on the Internet for other people to find. The containers serve the purpose of providing a place to store small trade items and/or logbooks. The intent of a Geocache is often to bring the cache seeker to a scenic park or interesting place, and to provide a quality outdoor experience. Geocaches are intentionally placed by their owners and are NOT abandoned property. The owner is responsible for its maintainence and upkeep.We probably won’t have time for another meeting before we submit a draft to the DNR. I’ll plan to work in the suggestions this weekend and post it here so you can all take another look. After that we need to send it in to give Sue time to review befor an upcoming meeting with her regional managers.
I wasn’t able to work on your suggestions to the policy this past weekend due to the WGA server being down. I’ll get to it this week and post for your comments.
We’re looking forward to hearing the DNR’s response
Here is my two cents.
A) Swap section 1 and section 2, so that we define the term geocache before we use it.
B) In a number of places in section 3, ‘Park Manager’ is mentioned as being contacted or doing something. As the Park Manager was earlier instructed to designate a contact, it would probably be clearer to both DNR staff and cachers using this policy to hold with the same designation of geocaching contact.
C) In section 1.2 the Park Manager is instructed to publish areas that are off limits. In section 3.1 geocachers are told to abide by that published list. So section 3.2 is redundant and could be construed by a geocacher as being the published list, and ignore the real published list.
D) In section 4.1, the wording on illegal items states that these types of items should not be allowed to remain in a geocache. The implication is that they might be placed in the cache (which of course is true). Something needs to be added to balance that statement in our favor. Perhaps:
Inappropriate items such as food, drugs, alcohol, hazardous materials, knives and other weapons, etc. are never allowed in a cache. The cache owner must diligently maintain their cache, and immediately remove any such items that are inadvertently placed in the cache.
E) Section 4.3 again refers to the Park Manager rather than the geocaching contact.
Sounding better all the time.
In 4.1 the cache owner is to take responsibility for the contents of his/her cache…but in 5.2 the cache hunter is to remove inappropriate items. I think 4.1 is well worded, but 5.2 still has the problem Thraxman pointed out that the hunter would be in possession of illegal weapons, drugs, or hazardous materials.
5.2 If a geocache hunter finds inappropriate items in a cache (such as food, knives, etc.) he or she shall remove these items from the cache and/or notify the cache owner.
I updated 5.2 this morning.
Looks great!
Looks good to me Ken…
I emailed the DNR and told Sue we will send our draft to her this evening so she can start to review it Thursday morning. So if any other WGA’ers wish to comment, please do so by 9:00 this evening.
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