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[Timberline Echoes]

Okay this is Mrs. TE so you don’t get after the Mr about my rant. I have a real problem with cachers actually destroying property to hide a cache. The first time I ever saw something was coords carved into a railing of a pier with a pen (Not even in this state so don’t try to guess which one). That corked me. Mr. asked me to remain quiet… I don’t want to become the caching police but what should one do when they find that a cacher has actually drilled a hole in a wooden sign and covered it with a reflector in the name of “creativity”. So what is a cacher to do… ignore, complain, turn the in…. or just rant on here… I just think it gives the caching community a bad name.
Okay off my soap box.
Mrs. TE

[BigJim]

I’ve seen a few caches where property has been modified to install a cache. I’ve always assumed that the hider had permission to make these modifications, but if you have reason to believe that the modification was done without the property owners consent, then yes, I would notify the property owner, let them know what you have found.

All opinions, comments, and useless drivel I post are mine alone and do not reflect the opinions of the WGA BOD.

[CodeJunkie]

I think deejay just had a post the other day about this and a park cache that had to be disabled. I’ve seen similar examples of what I think is “modified”, but sometimes it’s hard to tell. I think there are also various gray areas (i.e. drilling a hole, adding a screw eye to a sign post, gluing a metal plate to the underside of a park bench for a magnetic, etc.)

To me it’s a matter of destructiveness and permanence. One of my cemetery hides (archived earlier today) had a small screw eye added with a tether to keep the squirrels from stealing the container. When I removed the container today I took the screw eye out also. So was it destructive? Personally I don’t think so, but feel free to chime in.

[Timberline Echoes]

I personally do not think that drilling one screw into a tree is defacing nor harms the tree unless it lets invasive bugs in. I do think drilling a hole the size of a film canister in a 4 inch square base of a pole is defacing and weakening the structure.
Mrs. TE

[rcflyer2242]

Some stop signs have holes in them allready. They are there for a reason. It is so that if they get hit they will break off with less damage to what ever hit them. I dont think there is anything wrong with drilling a hole or attaching somthing to a dead or downed tree. However a live tree I would never agree with. I have seen many containers held to benches or signs with valcro either stapled or double sided taped. There again I see nothing wrong. They can be easily be removed on a later date. However If someone cut out a section and replaced it with another piece that was hollowed out to hold a container Like one I had found In another state. I have a problem with that. I guess we need to all decide for ourselves to either report the cache or not.

[CodeJunkie]

I agree, just stating that there are some gray areas and of course interpretation varies by cacher.

I recently did a cache that had the exact setup you’re talking about and wondered if it was created or used an existing hole.

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