Re-hiding caches..

[2nd time around]

Just venting but does it not just tick you off when someone does not re-hide a cache the same way they found it. We go through some thought to place a cache that is both challenging and fun for fellow cachers to search for only to have some cachers leave it right out in the open…….! How hard is it to replace it the same way you found it….. This has happened to quite a few of our caches and it is very frustrating…. We would like to Thank fellow cachers that notify us of this so we can re-hide the containers to make it fun for the next person…
Also what does a person do when someone claims to have found a certain cache but you notice they did not sign the log.. This has also happened on occasion. In the past we have just ignored it as we figure that it is really their loss… Why would a person want to claim a find that they have not made…..
Sorry for venting for so long but some things just get frustrating after awhile…. 😡

[jerrys dad]

If they don’t sign the log I let it go, it’s their loss if they actually didn’t find it. I do have one exception, a multi that is not the easiest to find. If everyone else worked hard to find it I will not let somebody just sign it. I have on the cache page that I compare the two and will delete anybody who does not sign the log.

[rcflyer2242]

People not replacing them as found is a fact of the game. How many time have you been to the store and found things where they do not belong?
Almost every time for me.
As for people not signing the logs, unless it is a real difficult hide 3.5 – 5, I leave it alone. I have deleted logs on 4 star hides with an email sent explaining why it is being deleted. I also check all my puzzle caches.
The rules state you must sign the log but I guess it’s really owner discretion. I cant tell you how many nano’s I found with out putting my name to that tiny paper.

[labrat_wr]

not every cacher signs every logsheet but if you feel that there is reason to suspect the logger has not been to the site or they cannot explain something about the hide/find/terrain/solve/etc the cache owner has all rights to delete the log.

Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.

[zuma]

@2nd time around wrote:

Just venting but does it not just tick you off when someone does not re-hide a cache the same way they found it. We go through some thought to place a cache that is both challenging and fun for fellow cachers to search for only to have some cachers leave it right out in the open…….! How hard is it to replace it the same way you found it….. This has happened to quite a few of our caches and it is very frustrating…. We would like to Thank fellow cachers that notify us of this so we can re-hide the containers to make it fun for the next person…
Also what does a person do when someone claims to have found a certain cache but you notice they did not sign the log.. This has also happened on occasion. In the past we have just ignored it as we figure that it is really their loss… Why would a person want to claim a find that they have not made…..
Sorry for venting for so long but some things just get frustrating after awhile…. 😡

I agree with what you are saying, and just want to add that not hiding the cache as intended also often leads to caches being muggled.

I revisit my TB hotel a couple blocks from my house 2-3 times per month, and I cannot tell you how many times I have found it sitting out in the open, when with only 15 seconds of effort it could be replaced deep into the hollow log, as I intended. Well, since it is an urban public park, it was only a matter of time before my ammo box took a walk, along with a few TBs.

I am sure this is preaching to the choir, and wont be read by the biggest culprits, but I gotta say it: Please replace caches as you found them. They are hidden in part to make it fun to find, but also to protect them from muggling.

zuma

[2nd time around]

I was just venting earlier and I also understand that not all people will re-hide a cache the way it was intended. It is just frustrating when it only takes a second and by not doing so it ruins the find for the next cacher.. As for people not signing a log, I have questioned people on certain caches and it was obvious that they never found the cache… I did not delete their post, I just figured it was their loss and they were really only cheating themselves. Caching to us is about the journey and the adventure not just the numbers. The time we have spent caching has taken us to places we have never and would have never even known about.. That is the fun for us… 😀

[CodeJunkie]

@2nd time around wrote:

I did not delete their post, I just figured it was their loss and they were really only cheating themselves.

Looking up your list of caches now and you should be seeing many logs shortly. 😆 😆 😆

[CodeJunkie]

On a more serious side – I try to replace them exactly as I found them. There have been times when I couldn’t (broken hanger wire) but generally I put them back as close as possible to the way I found them. Not harder, not more creative, not easier, but like it was found. Maybe not the EXACT pine branch, or the EXACT arrangment of geosticks, but as I found them.

When something seems wrong I do my best based on what I know of the placer, standard hides of this type, etc. and then email the CO noting something may not be right. In these cases I also try to take a photo to clarify to help the CO.

It’s really not that hard, but in the excitement to get the next smiley and a few more numbers I think people get lazy. (Just my personal opinion).

[gotta run]

Here’s my Cache Appreciation Ratio:

# of hides / # of finds = CAR

The higher the CAR, the more likely the cacher is to replace hides as intended, write meaningful logs, and otherwise express appreciation to cache owners.

The lower the CAR, you get the opposite, all the way down to when you get a zero.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[CodeJunkie]

@gotta run wrote:

# of hides / # of finds = CAR

Well I guess in that case I doubt anyone can do better than seldom|seen with a CAR of 17.34% (154 / 888). That’s not counting his creations that others have adopted.

Count me in as one of the “groupies”.

[sandlanders]

@CodeJunkie wrote:

Well I guess in that case I doubt anyone can do better than seldom|seen with a CAR of 17.34% (154 / 888). That’s not counting his creations that others have adopted.

Cheezehead has that beat: 146/486 = 30.04%, and that doesn’t count all of the caches he has placed under other accounts. Excuse me: the caches he has “mentored” other cachers on in placement. 😉

[sandlanders]

@gotta run wrote:

The higher the CAR, the more likely the cacher is to replace hides as intended, write meaningful logs, and otherwise express appreciation to cache owners.

The lower the CAR, you get the opposite, all the way down to when you get a zero.

So where does our 4.81% CAR rank us on those three criteria? Guess we need to slow down on our finds or ratchet up the placements before we can be considered as writing meaningful logs, etc. 😕

But it’s not about the numbers.

[gotta run]

eh, that formula might need a little fine-tunin’. I’m just causing trouble. 😛

On the Left Side of the Road...

[CodeJunkie]

I sit corrected then. Holy Smokes that’s a great CAR average.

[2nd time around]

As for the Sandlanders previous post….. You two write the most meaningful posts we have ever read…. We always appreciate your kind words in your posts… 🙂

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