Removing Cache Containers

[Team Deejay]

I just had to disable another cache where someone took it upon themselves to remove a container after a muggle had taken the cache contents. While I might understand this for a cache owned by someone no longer active, this cache was owned by an active player.

Please understand that this sort of behavior is not helpful. Removing the container makes it more difficult for the owner to restore the cache, plus anyone working off of older information will spend a lot of time searching for the cache, and putting more wear and tear on the area.

If you find a cache which has been muggled, moved, damaged or otherwise compromised, do not take it upon yourself to remove it. Instead, do the best you can to restore it, and then contact the owner and let them finish the job.

[-cheeto-]

@Team Deejay wrote:

I just had to disable another cache where someone took it upon themselves to remove a container after a muggle had taken the cache contents. While I might understand this for a cache owned by someone no longer active, this cache was owned by an active player.

Please understand that this sort of behavior is not helpful. Removing the container makes it more difficult for the owner to restore the cache, plus anyone working off of older information will spend a lot of time searching for the cache, and putting more wear and tear on the area.

If you find a cache which has been muggled, moved, damaged or otherwise compromised, do not take it upon yourself to remove it. Instead, do the best you can to restore it, and then contact the owner and let them finish the job.

How does removing the container make it “more difficult to restore the cache”?? In fact, isn’t it easier because it makes it possible to re-use the same container! If left there, the container would potentially be removed by someone else (maintenance, other visitors, etc) and not re-used.

I think every scenario is different here. You can’t apply universal logic all the time.

[-cheeto-]

And secondly why in the world did a reviewer “have to disable” a cache if the owner was active? Shouldn’t the “active” owner do that themselves??

Don’t mean to sound too critical here Dave but your post was very critical of someone as well.

[gotta run]

I agree this was a pretty fast disablement, particularly considering other caches that have confirmed issues that linger for some time with NM logs on them. Gibonnaci may not be the fastest at acting but he’s not an AWOL owner. Maybe there were other circumstances that brought it to someone’s attention.

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[jerrys dad]

@-cheeto- wrote:

And secondly why in the world did a reviewer “have to disable” a cache if the owner was active? Shouldn’t the “active” owner do that themselves??

I think he disables them if a NM log has been posted and nothing was done after a certain period of time. I thinks it a way to nudge or remind someone who might not be keeping up with their caches for what ever reason.

[Team Deejay]

I don’t expect the owner to be watching that close to immediately disable the cache. This has nothing to do with the owner at all (other than inconveniencing them).

It has to do with people stating “I took your cache container because…” in their log. This causes many more problems than it solves. Just restore and rehide the cache as best you can. This way, the owner can just take a new logbook to the container and adjust it as necessary, rather than needing to hunt down the other cacher to get his container back. The only exception would be if the container was destroyed to the point of being unusable (burned in a forest fire, cut by chainsaw or lawnmower, etc.) as a trash removal. Even then, it would be courteous to take the removed container to the owner’s home, as there may be parts of the logbook that are recoverable.

You will also notice that I didn’t mention any cache or cachers by name.

[The Happy Hodag!]

I will agree with the reviewer in the case of The Phantom cache, and others like it where a cacher just up and swiped the container. I don’t know for sure that this was the one initially in question, but I make reference to this one because Gotta Run brought it up, and I’m the one who swiped the container. As far as the cache placer (gibbonacci I believe), I just checked his profile, and he last logged in at the end of September. I certainly can’t speak for how often he logs in, or how regularly either. Seeing as how I have the container, and several log books right now, I will do my best to replace the cache as soon as I can get back that way.

-The Happy Hodag!

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[GetMeOutdoors]

@-cheeto- wrote:

You can’t apply universal logic all the time.

Blrp Blip geh urt… Sorry brain going a little haywire processing the self-defeating statement. 🙂 Sorry, found it amusing.

[-cheeto-]

@GetMeOutdoors wrote:

@-cheeto- wrote:

You can’t apply universal logic all the time.

Blrp Blip geh urt… Sorry brain going a little haywire processing the self-defeating statement. 🙂 Sorry, found it amusing.

lol, never noticed that until I just read your response. too funny. I guess I know what I meant at the time but the thought is now gone…

[brkster]

I hadn’t heard of anyone removing a container that was muggled before, but I have heard of cachers ADDING new containers (pill bottles, 35mm, etc) for those that HAD been obviously muggled.

[jerrys dad]

@brkster wrote:

I hadn’t heard of anyone removing a container that was muggled before, but I have heard of cachers ADDING new containers (pill bottles, 35mm, etc) for those that HAD been obviously muggled.

I had that happen. Instead of telling me the container was missing, they placed one (40′ from where I placed it) and took credit for the find.

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

@jerrys dad wrote:

@brkster wrote:

I hadn’t heard of anyone removing a container that was muggled before, but I have heard of cachers ADDING new containers (pill bottles, 35mm, etc) for those that HAD been obviously muggled.

I had that happen. Instead of telling me the container was missing, they placed one (40′ from where I placed it) and took credit for the find.

Just recently had someone add a log sheet to a NEMESIS cache because they didn’t find the one hidden in it. Thankfully they went back to the cache and remedied it.

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