Requiring a permit to FIND a cache. Not allowed?

[-cheeto-]

I thought I would share some of my lunchtime reading:

http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=268533

The moral of the story here is that apparently according to Groundspeak you cannot list a cache on a trail that the landowner requires a permit to access said trail.

Interesting small debate and some commentary on how Groundspeak applies Guidelines that may or may not be written down and how the appeals process was handled in this matter.

I can think of an example series of caches near me that require you to check in at an office and fill out a visitor book with personal information. All trail guests must follow this procedure not just cachers. The cache pages state this requirement. Wonder if those would not be publishable?

[Trekkin and Birdin]

What about all the state trails that require purchase of a pass if you want to use them for biking and such? 😯

[Northwoods Tom]

@Trekkin’ and Birdin’ wrote:

What about all the state trails that require purchase of a pass if you want to use them for biking and such?

My thoughts also, I’m saving up all the caches that require a park sticker to access for just this reason. Not a camper, so I will purchase a sticker for a marathon quest, possibly this summer. Will have to wait till latter when I’m at a computer that doesn’t block forums to read more.

[Lostby7]

I hiked up to Harney Peak last year and the United States Forest Service requires hikers to obtain a permit at a self-service kiosk located at the entrance to the Black Elk Wilderness area, en route to the summit.

I wonder if that would make the EC listing invalid according to the rules?

[gotta run]

Their (groundspeak’s) interpretation is stupid, plain and simple.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[CodeJunkie]

Very interesting. No fees required with the permit application, just an FYI type of permit that you need ahead of time. This certainly makes me wonder if the issue stems from a private organization vs. a state / county office.

I think it’s continued issues like this that could make the “competitors” more appealing to many cachers.

[The Crippler]

The state bike trails should be fine because usually you do not need to purchase a pass for walking it, just riding, so in effect this is non-permitted access by walking.

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