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07/01/2010 at 3:54 pm #1730399
We have a cache placed, with the attributes clearly stating it’s not winter friendly. I know, I know, they all should be, but no…..they should not. Sometimes the placement is otherwise, and that’s what that attribute displays.
So we get a log that says, “moved the cache to make it more winter friendly.”
I find that to be somewhat gutsy. We’re going to have to make a special trip and put it back the way we placed it. This is the reason Trekkin’ likes getting FTFs. Not to be first, but to find it the way the owner intended.
Sigh. We aren’t big purists about cache migration, but this is a bit beyond, IMO I guess the plus side is that we were just talking about having a picnic at this area, so we now have good reason to follow through on that idea.
07/01/2010 at 3:59 pm #1932055that is a bit bold to move a container without CO permission.
why in June/July would one worry about it being more winter friendly or is this cache Down Under where it is winter (do they get snow there?)Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
07/01/2010 at 4:10 pm #1932056Pete, We do get snow. Lots! There is a strong opinion among some around that all caches should be winter friendly and that gets stated in their logs.
Heck, we managed to find one of your not at all winter friendly Wild Side caches under a pile of snow last winter. I used to filter PQs for the snowflake attribute when we were winter caching, but last year, stopped doing that. If we wanted it bad enough, we’d dig!
07/01/2010 at 4:18 pm #1932057I know we do get snow. My comment was regarding Austraila (down under) as they should be in their winter months now. π
so there are those who think that every cache should be hung 6 feet up in a tree so no matter when you attempt the cache, it is recoverable…… hmmmm. Where’s the challenge in that! π π
do you get any “cache was pretty out in the open so we moved it so it wouldn’t be seen, BTW it is not winter friendly anymore” logs? π
Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
07/01/2010 at 5:26 pm #1932058If it was on the ground out in the open, wouldn’t have been winter unfriendly to being with?
07/01/2010 at 7:15 pm #1932059He he Pete, I thought you were referencing this corner of the state, which as far as I know, has not received any designation like other areas, such as Sandland, Selzzup or the rest.
I guess there are some areas in Australia with snowfall, but in spite of visiting there during their winter, I didn’t experience anything worse than some raw winds in the highlands inland. And I’ll take what passes for “winter” in Queensland any day. Body surfing, playing frisbee in shorts, snorkeling the Barrier Reef….yeah.
07/01/2010 at 8:36 pm #1932060I am guilty of making a cache more winter-friendly…but only in winter, and if the hide isn’t any different than it was 1 or 2 feet lower. And I have found a “winter-friendly” icon cache under a rock on a dead end street, where there are 15 foot snow piles in winter!
But making it winter-friendly in June or July is REALLY planning ahead!Such a thoughful cacher… π
p.s. That’s the ONLY reason Trekkin’ looks for the FTF?! π
07/01/2010 at 8:52 pm #1932061π π π
Do I even dare bring up the fact the icon is actually “Findable in Winter” and not “Winter Friendly”?
π π πI guess technically one could make it “more” winter friendly even though it’s not findable in winter. I can’t think of an example, but …
07/01/2010 at 8:54 pm #1932062On a serious note – I always try to put them back exactly as I found them.
The exception is when something is obviously wrong and then I send the CO a separate email on what I did to correct what appeared to be wrong.
07/01/2010 at 10:26 pm #1932063p.s. That’s the ONLY reason Trekkin’ looks for the FTF?!
Jim, Honestly, that truly is the only reason for him. He likes giving Ralph a bit of a run at times, too! But yes, it’s the reason. He really does not care if he is there later, figuring he’d go looking anyway, and really in the big scheme of life, does anyone really care about how many FTFs you have? LOL
CJ, I agree that the icon only means “available in winter,” but around here it gets interpreted by many as ‘winter friendly.’ We have found caches on a trail when the hint says “crotch of tree” and will put it in the crotch closest to the coordinates and email the owner as well. This was simply putting something hidden one way in a completely different kind of hide. Hopefully it will be there when we go to fix it. Part of the reason it was hidden as it was is the activity level on the trail and wanting it to be, well, hidden.
07/02/2010 at 12:32 am #1932064Well at least they told you what they did in the log! With the number of cachers growing Γ’β¬β there will always be a need for continuing educationΓ’β¬Β¦
07/02/2010 at 1:08 pm #1932065The only real way to make a cache winter friendly is to move it inside next to a nice warm fire and a cup of cocoa. π
Seriously, I think that’s pretty bold indeed. I can understand if it really was winter right now like Jim admitted to doing, but why be worried about it being winter friendly in the summer? Personally, I do admit that I have moved a cache slightly on occasion, but not enough to change the intent and usually just to conceal it better than I found it.
However, there is the other side of it… Someone wrote “Found it. Hint was no help.” Hint was “six feet up.” Then I got an email from them telling me I should change the hint because they found it on the ground and that is where they left it. The cache is a matchstick container with a hanger on it AND a little fake pine branch glued to it. I could understand if they didn’t put it back exactly at 6 feet, but to leave it on the ground????
07/02/2010 at 1:16 pm #1932066@BakRdz wrote:
However, there is the other side of it… Someone wrote “Found it. Hint was no help.” Hint was “six feet up.” Then I got an email from them telling me I should change the hint because they found it on the ground and that is where they left it. The cache is a matchstick container with a hanger on it AND a little fake pine branch glued to it. I could understand if they didn’t put it back exactly at 6 feet, but to leave it on the ground????
LOL…..As you may have noticed, it is not a requirement that one pass an IQ test prior to starting to geocache.
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07/02/2010 at 2:00 pm #1932067@zuma wrote:
@BakRdz wrote:
However, there is the other side of it… Someone wrote “Found it. Hint was no help.” Hint was “six feet up.” Then I got an email from them telling me I should change the hint because they found it on the ground and that is where they left it. The cache is a matchstick container with a hanger on it AND a little fake pine branch glued to it. I could understand if they didn’t put it back exactly at 6 feet, but to leave it on the ground????
LOL…..As you may have noticed, it is not a requirement that one pass an IQ test prior to starting to geocache.
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That explains it!
I’m amazed at the number of people who do not put a cache back where they found it.
07/02/2010 at 3:59 pm #1932068Of course, there is that “proximity rule” that can apply to almost any cache. π‘
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