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The Lil Otter 19 years, 4 months ago.
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Here is a responce I got from one of them.
It’s not within the guide lines….Have they all been approved? no
Are they at least .1 mile from each other? no.
It’s called cheating or padding your numbers….And why does it mater to me?
Because my number are legitimate numbers…but when cachers cheat it affects the rankings…and ruins the sport for everyone (except the cheaters).Considering that it appears that neither of them even attended the event, who cares. All they are doing is trolling from afar. Don’t offer them bait. Like most games there are regional variations of the “Rules.”
He did a post on the groundspeak boards and had put my email address in with the post. I did inform him about it and he did take it out but not after I did get a few well we will say nice emails.
I think this is the topic on gc.com your referring to? http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=131878
If so, dont let Criminal give you grief- He’s obviously bored, and trolling the whole nations logs to find fault in others-
Oh, and thats Crimal: http://www.geocaching.com/email/?guid=e3709034-bff0-4449-b247-8c6a851f8997
If its wasnt him, my apolgize- Ive been reading that thread thruout the day, and its been getting lots of traffic.I agree- Ignore him- Who Cares what He thinks?
Besides, he is NoWhere near WI, so . . .People are always scrutinizing WI events & trying to “get us” for having temporaries. Don’t even pay them any mind. They are the people that are into geocaching for the numbers. They also seem to have the idea that the person with the highest find count “wins”, and therefore finding temporary caches is “cheating”.
Continue to have your events and do whatever YOU want to do at them. Rest assured that your peers (here in WI) support your decision.
Bec
There are no shortcuts to any place worth goingIt’s amazing, but geocaching seems to attract a larger number of disguntled individuals than other ‘sports’ I know of.
Now, as far as humoring you, Russell…..well!
I had an experience where a cacher from a distant state sent me a nasty e-mail about a cache log that I had written. I had inadvertently used a incorrect homonym! I don’t remember exactly what, but it was a “their, there, they’re” or a “to, two, too” type of error. He went on to admonish me at length about the need to properly proofread my logs.
I checked his profile and, not only was he hundreds of miles away, we didn’t even have any cache finds or travel bug finds in common. His occupation was listed as, “between jobs.” Perhaps an English teacher?
No, I did not reply with an apology for my grievous error and, no, I did not give him satisfaction by correcting my error in the log. I just ignored it.
TS
MB, That was very well put. I am getting rather tired of the criticism we get from outsiders. We have been listening (or more appropriately ignoring) to it for over 4 years now. One might wonder if there aren’t more important things to whine about.
We often overlook the fact that there is really no governing body here, no law, no rules… only GUIDELINES. So keep your score anyway that is meaningful to you. There is no way one can cheat. It is like “coloring outside the lines” So What?
Do it your way and enjoy the fun.
[This message has been edited by Trudy & the beast (edited 05-10-2006).]
I see the geocaching numbers as like keeping score when playing golf alone. You constantly try to improve your game but it really doesn’t have much meaning to anyone but yourself. Unlike golf though, geocaching doesn’t really have a practical limit as to how much you can improve your score. Whereas in golf, people will become skeptical when you tell them you’ve whittled your score down to 17 strokes for 18 holes, and begin to question your honesty…
TS
I was at Russell’s event, all the temporary caches were fun to find, well planned and he put a ton of work into it. For those of us looking for them, some were easy and some more difficult, but still in my opinion a legitimate find. They were not any different than other finds I have gotten on my own so what is the difference? This was a great chance to socialize, meet other geocachers and pick up tips on great ways to hide stuff (Russell is good at that). If I am in it to get my numbers up (maybe I am and maybe I am not) or if I choose to only do “quality” caches (as some people put it), that is MY choice! I am not hurting anybody am I? Who cares if I get to 1000 caches in 10 years or 2? I think we are all doing it for the fun and for me it is to get my can off the couch and meet new people. Russell, don’t let this get to you, you did a fine job and we all had a blast. I look forward to an event in the fall and plan on logging each and every find. Thank you again.
“ARGH – I know it’s here somewhere…”I always find criticism of logging temp caches amusing. Trying to think back, I don’t think we’ve logged any so I can’t really be one to judge. But I personally don’t see anything wrong with it. It is a personal ‘score’. When we first started geocaching we (probably more I) used the finds as a goal. “By January 1st I want to have found X amount of caches.” We use it more so as motivation to do more when we’re out and about rather than being slaves to the TV.
Hmm, I think the TV has been winning lately. Must do something about that this summer!
-Nick
of The Cacheseekers
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