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The Lil Otter 19 years, 4 months ago.
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I think this last part my Jeremy really sums up the whole argument.
” But as I also said before, I don’t lose sleep over it. I stand by my
stance that there are no “points” for geocaching and no score to be
kept. The site does not keep score but simply offers a history of your
finds. “Jeremy wrote:But as I also said before, I don’t lose sleep over it. I stand by my stance that there are no “points” for geocaching and no score to be kept. The site does not keep score but simply offers a history of your
finds.This quote, in itself- TO ME – puts criminal or any other cacher the reason to “Close Thy Trap…. as my dad used to “try” and put it. The extra commentary is not needed at this point.
In all reality, I’d say F…….. orget them.
I realize many of you don’t realize this,but I spend a majority of my caching time in WI – NOT mn. I really like the way THIS organization has gone since I became a cacher. Being a dual state citizen (tax payer) has enabled Me to see the quality of what an organization can become. Everyone Here deserves a Great Big Thank You !A recent Lunch Bunch was hosted by 2 MN cachers. Does anyone wonder why? I sure don’t.
WI, especially now with geocaching – to ME – is “Heaven”.
I got tired of typing at the big site-
Im My Opinion- to be short and sweet –
F……orget them. Enjoy yourself, and let the rest of the ‘chaf’ seperate itself from the wheat. This is Not an officially regulated “anything” You Will NOT be audited, so enjoy yourself at your own pace, and at your OWN enjoyment.PS – I didnt make it to the last event, but tried- had some problems. . .. .
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Originally posted by MajorBrat:
Hey Russell…no worries! The WGA camp out is this weekend. Once people start logging that, those watching what you’re doing will forget all about you and start jumping on attendees of the camp out.Too funny! But absolutely true.
Thanks for the laugh.Yep, I went to bat for this thing over there yesterday and basically the “tally-wackers” drove me crazy. I found no “rule” or any banning of logging finds at cache events – so my 21 finds are staying. It would, however, be nice if they came up with a different login icon for event finds, also keep numbers separate, and yet allow you to log them to keep track. At this point, does not sound like that is gonna happen. I laughed too when I read about logging 55! That ought to really stir up the pot – yikes!
“ARGH – I know it’s here somewhere…”[This message has been edited by lonesumdove (edited 05-11-2006).]
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Originally posted by TS:
I see the geocaching numbers as like keeping score when playing golf alone. You constantly try to improve your game but it really doesn’t have much meaning to anyone but yourself. Unlike golf though, geocaching doesn’t really have a practical limit as to how much you can improve your score. Whereas in golf, people will become skeptical when you tell them you’ve whittled your score down to 17 strokes for 18 holes, and begin to question your honesty…TS
EXCELLENT example TS, when I play golf(once or twice a year) I count when I swing and miss the ball as I intended to hit it and it counts, I only do this because I want to know what I have actually done. I usually get high score(does that mean I win, yes cause I had fun) likewise I like to keep track of caches I have done even if soooo many others have more caches than me(does that mean I win, yes because I had fun!!). I personally prefer to log multiple attends as I found several geocaches that others had opportunity to find, but that’s an opinion.
Note: 97 in 9 holes the first time I went golfing.
here is our 2 cents worth, One Geocache Page = one geocache GC number = ONE LOG
We are happy to see that many of the attendees of the campout logged this way.
Our finds are actual finds, That were approved by geocaching.com We guess that is why we havent attended a event, We are sure that the caches found are of good quality and took a lot of work to set up, but still they are only temporary.
We enjoy the fact that geocaching has taken us all over the US to many interesting places, that we would have never have known existed if it wasnt for geocaching. We would rather drive from cache to cache spending a full day enjoying this hobby together, rather than spending a day in a single state park looking for temporary caches. I guess with gas prices the way they are this might be a better idea, we still enjoy doing it our way and Kudos to all who logged once since you only attended the campout ONCE not 15 – 17 or more times.
Maybe Geocaching should do the same thing with event caches that they did with virtuals put them on another site.
We are sure this might stir up some controversy but we are not pointing fingers at anyone, just stating our opinion.
Sweetlife
This is basically what I stated on the Geocaching.Com site:
One cache = One log
I’m not going to get caught up in what has a web page and what doesn’t. Some multi’s are allowed multiple logs, others don’t. In the end, who cares?
If you find a cache, LOG IT! If for nothing else, it’s fun to watch the alpha personalities get upset! LOL
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Originally posted by Green Bay Paddlers:
If for nothing else, it’s fun to watch the alpha personalities get upset! LOLLOL!
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Originally posted by Green Bay Paddlers:
it’s fun to watch the alpha personalities get upset! LOL And here’s an example!
http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=5cde0436-d9d0-47e1-9122-4bb5c7b45c7e
Team LightningBugs
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Originally posted by LightningBugs Mum:
And here’s an example!
http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=5cde0436-d9d0-47e1-9122-4bb5c7b45c7e
I think he need a less stressful hobby..
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Originally posted by Green Bay Paddlers:
This is basically what I stated on the Geocaching.Com site:One cache = One log
I’m not going to get caught up in what has a web page and what doesn’t. Some multi’s are allowed multiple logs, others don’t. In the end, who cares?
What’s the name of the website again, Housebrew something or other?
Obviously many people do care about find counts, otherwise there wouldn’t be
A. Houseofbrew’s website ranking the top 40 Wisconsin cache finders, and other similar geocache ranking sites and
B. People coming to the forums asking for the url to such a site.I fall into the camp of 1 GC.com number = 1 cache = 1 found it log. Padding your Geocaching.com find count with finds that are not Geocaching.com caches does skew the listings – the rankings are not comparing apples to apples. It also throws suspicion on high find counts – did a team really go out and find 6000+ Geocaching.com caches, or did they just log single caches (such as an event) multiple times? If 1 GC.com number = 1 cache = 1 found it log, then there is no doubt about their great count. Allowing multiple finds throws doubt on what their real accomplishment was.
Also, how many multiple loggers protect your PC’s from worms & trojans that steal disk space and cpu cycles? IMO your logging temp caches is the same thing as a worm or trojan, using the Geocaching.com servers to hold and process your non-geocaching.com cache logs. The Geocaching.com servers have enough trouble keeping up with the volume now.
Would you log your Terracaching.com or Navicache.com finds on the Geocaching.com site? If not why not? What’s the difference between logging those finds on Geocaching.com and logging temporary, non geocaching.com caches on the site?
I fall into the category of not caring one way or the other. Geocaching.com has provided a handy place for people to find coordinates for geocaches. It is not geocaching. It is a database that has been posted for our use. No one has been prevented from logging temp hides on it, so those that choose to can do so.
Personally, I enjoy caching and have grown to find Internet logging to be more of a burden then a need. I’ll log when I feel something needs to be said about a cache. Beyond that I hope everyone plays the game to their own liking, and is able to find that certain something they seek in doing so.
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Originally posted by Cathunter:
Geocaching.com has provided a handy place for people to find coordinates for geocaches. It is not geocaching. It is a database that has been posted for our use. No one has been prevented from logging temp hides on it, so those that choose to can do so.You hit the nail on the head Cathunter. There is no prize for having the highest numbers. GC.com hosts a database and they have rules for what kinds of caches are allowed in that database. Being able to log finds in their database is a service they provide to the geocaching community. But they have clearly stated that they are not the logging police and never will be.
If I find a quality temporary cache that I deem worthy of permanent status, which is the majority of them, then I will log it. I like my numbers to reflect what I have done out there with my GPSr. But now I wish I had the option of making my find numbers private. Not because I feel I’ve done anything wrong, but just to make the point that this is not a competition. My find count should be meaningful to me and nobody else.
Frankly, I’m used to being judged by the vocal self-rightous for refusing to conform to what they think is right. But when people like Criminal start calling me and my friends cheaters, it really starts to get my hackles up. (This comment is not directed at any specific individual participating in this forum.)
I fall into the category of cachers that wonder how 4400 posts on the gc.com forums and 320 caches found makes one an authority on how the game should be played.
Here is my take…
one plays a game for enjoyment.
if one finds temps enjoyable so be it.
if one does not find temps enjoyable don’t do them.
If temps give one heartburn, find another game.
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