Thread Stealers With Too Much On Their Minds – Page 787

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05/05/2017 at 8:57 am #2055011
The Happy Hodag!
Error3 wrote:

That’s cool that you got to cache in Appleton hodag, find anything of note?

I had to cross a creek a couple times to find caches, that’s always fun.

The buck stops here. . .and gets entered into Where's George.

Where's George? Stimulating the economy one EMS'ed dollar at a time.
05/06/2017 at 6:14 am #2055018
jbspandkids
FTP!!! Looks like it’s going to be a great day to get out and find some. Have a great weekend everyone!
05/06/2017 at 10:24 am #2055019
amita17
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Sorry, I couldn’t find the actual campout thread in my haste…it is in a county park, not a state park, so no sticker/fee required, is this correct?
05/06/2017 at 10:29 am #2055020
rawevil
amita17 wrote:

Sorry, I couldn’t find the actual campout thread in my haste…it is in a county park, not a state park, so no sticker/fee required, is this correct?

Correct. This is a county park so no state park sticker is required.

I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.

-Henry David Thoreau
05/06/2017 at 11:12 am #2055021
sandlanders
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rawevil wrote:

amita17 wrote:

Sorry, I couldn’t find the actual campout thread in my haste…it is in a county park, not a state park, so no sticker/fee required, is this correct?

Correct. This is a county park so no state park sticker is required.

This is true for this particular county park. Not sure about other Marathon County parks, but all of the Adams County parks require a fee to enter. This is also true of some county parks elsewhere, so while no state park sticker is required for this year’s campout location, this does not imply that other events at other county parks do not require their own stickers/fees.

Personally, I would like to see the WGA choose state properties over local ones for the spring campouts and the fall picnics. The statewide consistency of policies and fees for those properties are known to most people who cache in our state, and those buying state parks stickers to attend those events can use them all year long in all parks in Wisconsin. This also gives financial support to the state properties, which, thanks to recent changes in how things operate, are hurting financially and scrambling to fill in gaps due to the withdrawal of traditional funding. The WGA is a statewide organization that has historically worked closely with the state DNR.
05/06/2017 at 12:48 pm #2055023
raslas
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sandlanders wrote:

Personally, I would like to see the WGA choose state properties over local ones for the spring campouts and the fall picnics. The statewide consistency of policies and fees for those properties are known to most people who cache in our state, and those buying state parks stickers to attend those events can use them all year long in all parks in Wisconsin. This also gives financial support to the state properties, which, thanks to recent changes in how things operate, are hurting financially and scrambling to fill in gaps due to the withdrawal of traditional funding. The WGA is a statewide organization that has historically worked closely with the state DNR.

Each of us is entitled to his or her own personal opinion and mine is geocaching is not just on state lands. Many caches are hidden on city and county land also. These areas need financial support just as much as state lands. Personally I am glad the WGA is changing it up a bit and using these lands when they meet our needs. Remember, the world is our playground, not just state lands.
05/06/2017 at 6:03 pm #2055026
sandlanders
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My lengthy, well-thought out reply to the above post has disappeared.

Really??? Really???
05/06/2017 at 6:17 pm #2055027
sandlanders
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Summary without the supporting details:

Consistency when working with DNR properties –the big one being that most local properties have no policy on firewood use to restrict the spread of the emerald ash borer.

Ah, screw it! Too hard replicate. This is not fun anymore. Good-bye.
05/06/2017 at 8:31 pm #2055028
raslas
Participant
My response disappeared also, I had to rewrite it.
05/06/2017 at 9:05 pm #2055029
Chatauqua560
Participant
This the lost piece Pat?

sandlanders wrote: I do not dispute the need for the WGA to work with all public properties to develop opportunities for caching in all parts of the state — That is listed first in this organization’s by-laws. (See what has already been accomplished by visiting the Info Center at the top of the website page.) In fact, many WGA events as well as local and individual organized caching events are held on or in conjunction with local properties. Right now, the DNR oversees a great number of properties statewide, and other than state natural areas, as a whole they are hosts to many more caches than local properties. We have visited many local parks and properties to cache, but unless cache owners identify individual park policies in their cache write-ups, we do not know what to expect when we visit them, nor is it easy to find out online what those policies are in many cases. Consistency is what I see as a big plus for using DNR properties for the two major WGA events. In addition to some counties requiring entrance fees and stickers, which can vary greatly from county to county (most of which cannot be used other than in those counties), there are different rules for each as far as reservations and other camping items go. Some have a two-night camping minimum, some require 30-day advance notice for refunds, some charge more for prime spots (if these are even available), some allow thirty-day stays, seasonal camping, or even allow units to be stored on sites year-round for a fee… Some don’t even have specific sites identified and numbered. Some patrol their properties regularly, others minimally. Some have great local organizations they work with, while others are on their own. Some of what is and isn’t done per county may be due to funding or it may be due to policy or it may be due to both. It is not consistent, as it is w ith DNR properties. The websites for the 72 counties vary greatly as to how information can be easily accessed to see exactly what is what for park use in each county. A major concern I have with local properties is that many do not restrict nor monitor the firewood that is brought into them. The emerald ash borer was first found in Adams County only a couple of years ago in the Petenwell County Park area, an expanding park with no firewood policy that sees major use by campers from all over the Midwest, including quarantined states as well as those areas of Wisconsin with restrictions. The rules set in place by the DNR to stop the spread of this insect… a beetle that is now causing great devastation to ash trees that are valuable to parks, municipalities, and individuals… do not apply to local properties. The whole world may be our caching playground, but we would like to keep that so by being good stewards of the lands we play on. As cachers, we have the responsibility to take care of the lands we visit, not just use them to get smiley after smiley after smiley. If we do not, then someday caching may not be allowed on properties or there may not be properties left to cache on. Just my two cents worth…
05/06/2017 at 9:47 pm #2055030
rawevil
I read the first post and reply. Something was wonky with the page. I understand sandlanders’ concern. However, as raslas stated, the WGA needs to expand their locales. This has been brought up by numerous members in the past. We, as WGA Members, need to expand our horizons and support all opportunities as we see fit for the membership. It may be a county park or state forest.

I am personally working with the WDNR on an event. It’s not a WGA Event but an WGA-sponsored event. Let’s keep this in perspective.

I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.

-Henry David Thoreau
05/07/2017 at 8:15 am #2055031
JimandLinda
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I am all in favor of holding events at county venues. For those WGA members that don’t frequent the SPs, it is even more affordable to attend. With gas, meals, and camping fees for a family of 4, even freeing up a $7 daily admission helps! Plus, members could possibly use the $7 to purchase WGA merchandise, which supports the “no membership fee” organization they belong to instead of giving more money to the DNR. It is a tricky balancing act, but moving a few events to county parks has been discussed by the BOD for at least 6 years. I’m glad to see some action taken… finally.

And FTP for Sunday, to boot!
05/07/2017 at 9:53 am #2055032
maskinwi
That is why we also ask for input from all members. We take them sort them out and try to make a great decision based on feedback.

All opinions, comments, and useless drivel I post are mine alone and do not reflect the opinions of the WGA BOD.
05/07/2017 at 10:29 am #2055033
JimandLinda
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By the way…

When I visited the park last month, there was a very large firewood supply right at the event/camping area. I remember that because I DNF’d the hide there!
05/07/2017 at 10:29 am #2055034
JimandLinda
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