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This may not be the place for this but I have to express an increasing frustration that I have been experiencing with the travel bugs in SE Wisconsin. I try to get bugs moving towards their goals if they have one. Several that I have dropped for specific purposes in specific spots keep being brought back to Milwaukee. There are several teams that seem to be doing mass exchanges. While I generally don’t care what others do, I do have a problem with total disregard for the goal of a travel bug, just to get it for a find.
I wouldn’t even mind the mass exchange if in the end the bug makes progress to its goal. But more and more frequently that is just not the case.
If this is not an appropriate forum post, please feel free to delete it.
Uncle_Fun
Do you put goal tags on your TB’s?
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Originally posted by Uncle_Fun:
There are several teams that seem to be doing mass exchanges…just to get it for a find. Uncle_FunTHANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!!
But don’t forget…it’s not about the numbers (does that count for TB’s? LOL!)!quote:
Originally posted by MajorBrat:
But don’t forget…it’s not about the numbers (does that count for TB’s? LOL!)!
Sure it is, at least for one team, whose goal is to pass me up in TB’s by the end of the year.
[This message has been edited by whitnallgps (edited 04-08-2005).]
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Originally posted by whitnallgps:
Sure it is, at least for one team, whose goal is to pass me up in TB’s by the end of the year.[This message has been edited by whitnallgps (edited 04-08-2005).]
hmmmm…your post sure does make it sound as though you’re concerned about the numbers as well
I’d also like to add that if you ARE concerned about the numbers, you should check out this cache: GCJJ4K, or GCMJEJ…apparently you can put a watch on the caches so that you know when new bugs are left there. Then you can race over before anyone else and get your hands on the new ones. It seems common practice to just take a bug or 12 to/from there to trade repeatedly rather than “finding” them in a cache you haven’t visited…you know, the old fashioned way. Check out the logs…hmmm…25-36 visits to one cache just to trade bugs? Seems wrong to me but what do I know?!
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Originally posted by Uncle_Fun:
I try to get bugs moving towards their goals if they have one. Several that I have dropped for specific purposes in specific spots keep being brought back to Milwaukee.Uncle_Fun
Amen Brother! Um, wait a minute, Amen Neighbor! No, that’s not it, how about Amen ex-Neighbor, longtime acquaintence and fellow scouter and geocacher!
(No disrespect intended toward Uncle Fun’s brothers, neighbors, etc..)
I believe that I brought a bug called Yellow TB Express or something similar to this area from the west coast. Its goal was to race from somewhere out west to somewhere else out west by putting at least 3000 miles or so on its map along the way.
I made arrangements to drop it in the Hotel in Waukesha – cool, I didn’t know it existed, new find – for someone heading to Vegas to take along. Lo and behold, the bug hasn’t left the area and is back in the hotel a few days ago, nearly a year after I tried to help it win its race. Shame on all of you who have impeded its progress!
Steve K
I’ve just learned to make it a habit NOT to pick up travel bugs that don’t tell me what their goal is. I don’t want to mess it up.
Also, if the travel bug is too big, I won’t take it either. It gets really hard to find caches that are big enough to accept the travel bug…. I’ve lived and learned.
~MF, who has just a few official TB finds to her name.
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Originally posted by rcav8r:
Do you put goal tags on your TB’s?The way I see it, if it doesn’t have a goal tag, take it, and look it up later. If you find out later that it wanted to go elsewhere, you always make up a tag for that bug for future finds by cachers.
We have been to Lansburg, over twenty times, to exchange tbs. I have never seen any rules that state you can only go to a cache once. Why would you have a travel bug hotel, if you are notable to trade bugs out? We try to help the bugs on their mission if we can; if not we move them a little bit to give them a break from there trip.
We geocache for fun, this includes the total numbers also. There is no chance of getting 3000 caches, in one year; but 300 travel bugs are.
My boys and I look at it as a game, can we beat Whitnalgps. He is like the Pro in sports, you want to be like and someday beat.
Everyone caches for different reasons(numbers, getting out, exploring, and many other reasons). So how can something be wrong if there are no real rules; it may be different or something you do not like. It is geocaching and as long as your group has fun and it does not hurt anyone what does it matter. :0quote:
Originally posted by CB&MB:
I’d also like to add that if you ARE concerned about the numbers, you should check out this cache: GCJJ4K, or GCMJEJ…apparently you can put a watch on the caches so that you know when new bugs are left there. Then you can race over before anyone else and get your hands on the new ones. dMBWe are the team that you are refering about. We have gone two both bug hotels several times.Doesn’t everyone have the ability to put a watch on any cache. I thought it was also first come first serve. We have never taken more bugs then we have dropped off, so what is the problem
Now to be fair to WAUKESHA WIZARDS, I will say that we met them at Landsberg about a month ago and they took all 4 of the bugs we just left there (and left 4 too). Since then the bugs have moved around like they should. Three went to an event in Chicago with AuntieNae and were dispersed there (one has since gone to Mexico). The other, which wanted to north to Canada, they held on to and did move it north.
I do like rcav8r, and take a bug without a tag and look it up later. If it doesn’t have a tag, then the TB owner probably doesn’t care much where it goes. If it does have a mission, it needs a tag and I will put one on.
Team LightningBugs
* * * * * * * * * *If it does not have a tag on it explaining it’s goal, the person who picks it up should not be held accountable for moving it in the wrong direction. How would they ever know, until they got it home to log it?
If I put a bug out with a goal and no tag, it’s because I want it to move about, hoping that it will gain a lot of miles and eventually make it to it’s goal. The fun is seeing where the bug goes to get there.
Much like I would not want anyone to re-paint or otherwise modify one of my caches, I would not want anyone to attach anything or otherwise modify one of my bugs.
Personally, I prefer bugs be naked. Please don’t wrap them in zip-lock bags or hang anything from them, without the owners permission.
I assume if there is no goal tag, the bug is just supposed to travel. Anywhere. Hope I haven’t messed up anyones bugs.
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Originally posted by cacherchick:
I assume if there is no goal tag, the bug is just supposed to travel. Anywhere. Hope I haven’t messed up anyones bugs.Goal tags did not become popular until more recently. There are plenty of caches and geo-coins out there that have a goal, but you will not learn what it is until you go to log in in the website.
It becomes more of a problem when people are moving bugs long distances. A good example would be to pick up a bug in Nevada and bring it to Wisconsin, only to find out that it’s goal was to go to California.
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