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07/10/2008 at 3:28 am #1890970
@kbraband wrote:
I don’t create creative cache containers but I admire the ones that I’ve found or read about. Here’s one you may want to check out if you’re ever in the Cedar Falls, Ia., area: GC1DRM6 This looks too cool to last.
Just checked out that cache page and all I have to say is 😕 😯 ❓
07/10/2008 at 4:21 pm #1890971@gotta run wrote:
Now, if a muggle finds this and decides to mess with it, why leave the container? Or does a cacher just need a rare earth magnet so badly? Just very bizarre.
The problem with this sort of hide (I have one myself) is that it is nearly impossible to search for this type with any sort of stealth. Jay’s hide was the same way, located on a cannon in the middle of muggle central. If someone were to find it, they would almost certainly spent significant time examining, exploring and flat out crawling on that cannon, which certainly is conspicuous.
We have all been caught conducting full cavity searches of lampposts, fence posts, and other objects when we thought we were alone. Once a muggle sees someone access a cache, they will almost certainly investigate on their own after the cacher leaves. Who knows what they will do with it after they find it? This is why I always invite over muggles when they “catch me” searching. Including them reduces (but doesn’t eliminate) the chance they will steal or damage the cache, as they are “part of the secret”.
07/10/2008 at 5:04 pm #1890972I’ve decided to blame the loss on a tape-loving squirrel. Maybe he’s eaten the magnet and can literally get his behind stuck to a metal pole somewhere…
On the Left Side of the Road...07/10/2008 at 5:16 pm #1890973@gotta run wrote:
I’ve decided to blame the loss on a tape-loving squirrel. Maybe he’s eaten the magnet and can literally get his behind stuck to a metal pole somewhere…
excerpt from Mathman’s article post on the “teach your geodog to cache” thread
• Look out for cats, squirrels and other fast moving creatures; they trigger a primordial chase instinct, unless they are stuck to a metal pole with a rare earth magnet 😀
Disclaimer : Always answering to a higher power.
07/10/2008 at 6:43 pm #1890974@tyedyeskyguy wrote:
My observation is that if something bothers you about a certain cache, then avoid it, don’t steal it. And, if someone was bothered by this cache for any reason, whether it was because it was structural, or they were affraid to ask for help, or whatever the case may be, They could have contacted me to discuss it, and, once again, not stolen the cache. Again, I’m still not completely certain the cache was stolen by a cacher.
There were no tools required to remove this bolt, unless a previous cacher had tightened it with a wrench and I had not know about it. Thing is, the last person to touch it (CacherClan0 is a close personal friend beyond the caching world. I’m certain he didn’t tighten it.
You didn’t say if it was a premium cache or not. I think this is important because I believe that geocaching began welcoming too many people into the fold. I don’t know it, but I’d suspect and hope that premium caches are more secure than those opened to anyone. There are those of us who preferred the more covert days before we tried to please everybody and ask “Captain may I?”. The less that knew about a cache, the better. At first, the publicity and media exposure was neat. Now, it seems to be a curse, at least to me, and can be partly responsible why some good caches end up MIA.
11/12/2009 at 10:16 pm #1890975bump
11/13/2009 at 3:38 pm #1890976@seldom|seen wrote:
bump
Thanks for opening an old wound! 😆 JK
I’ve learned a lot since posting that thread over a year ago. Since then, many of the NEMESIS caches and a few of the Riddler series went missing on shady terms. I’ve since archived the entire Riddler series, as the containers were far to valuable to let any more go.
Most of the NEMESIS series is gone now too. I had planted number 20, a 7 stage multi-cache, but it was never published. By far my best work, the most fun and the most time and effort spent on a series. A few locals were given the coords and were able to find the final in a single days work. They had some great comments too.
Losing all those caches (and the busy summer) took the spark from my caching, so after 6 months, NEMESIS #20 is still unpublished, actually archived. The stages should all still be there, and I may try to reset the cache this fall. As for Riddler, I have three new ones I could put out, but am afraid of losing them. The cost, time and effort for Riddler are far to high to lose more to caching thieves. Yes I know they were cachers. Only a cacher would solve a 5 star puzzle, cross a field of knee deep mud, and swim or boat to an island to steal my treasure chest, yet leave the rest of the cache and the nearby bonus cache intact.
So what lesson did I learn? Not to let this get the best of me, and never to place another cache I’m not willing to lose.
11/13/2009 at 4:48 pm #1890977Wow!! Something we have to look forward to. We’ve been thinking of some hides. Taking more time than our first two PNG. And we got frustrated when our fully stocked 5 gal bucket was empty. Now I see we were being silly, at least our bucket was still there 😳
Reading all of the venting posts written we just wanted to say thank you for everyone that goes through this….and still places new caches.
Any unique cache container, puzzle, multi or even the story behind the cache are ones that we never forget.
Thanks for ALL of the time in placing these, there are so many caches out there that while leaving laughing and saying “We would have never thought of THAT!”
11/13/2009 at 4:51 pm #1890978Wow!! Something we have to look forward to. We’ve been thinking of some hides. Taking more time than our first two PNG. And we got frustrated when our fully stocked 5 gal bucket was empty. Now I see we were being silly, at least our bucket was still there 😳
Reading all of the venting posts written we just wanted to say thank you for everyone that goes through this….and still places new caches.
Any unique cache container, puzzle, multi or even the story behind the cache are ones that we never forget.
Thanks for ALL of the time in placing these, there are so many caches out there that while leaving laughing and saying “We would have never thought of THAT!”
11/13/2009 at 5:36 pm #1890979@Northern Lightz wrote:
Wow!! And we got frustrated when our fully stocked 5 gal bucket was empty. Now I see we were being silly, at least our bucket was still there 😳
That bucket had quite a few TBs in it when we stopped by a couple of weeks ago, but the paint job was wearing in spots and the white was more visible, though the container was still out of view. Want us to see what we can do for more camo, or are you coming up in the near future? Looks like the cache gets lots of visits. Yep. The bucket was still there.
11/13/2009 at 5:53 pm #1890980I added some photo’s to the last few pages of my WGA Photo Album of a few old NEMESIS and Riddler caches so you can get an idea of the time and effort I put into them. Many of them are the ones that disappeared.
11/13/2009 at 6:40 pm #1890981Those were some amazing caches and waypoints. I wish we could have seen them in action.
Obviously the finals were lost to human activity, but I wonder how many of the “natural” waypoints were lost to the elements or nature?
On the Left Side of the Road...11/13/2009 at 6:54 pm #1890982I had a “Button” custom machined for a special cache of mine…I had it in a bag asking that it remain in the cache and there was also a tag attached to it stating it was not a trade item…it was taken…sure are a bunch of lammers out there…
11/13/2009 at 7:21 pm #1890983@sandlanders wrote:
@Northern Lightz wrote:
Wow!! And we got frustrated when our fully stocked 5 gal bucket was empty. Now I see we were being silly, at least our bucket was still there 😳
That bucket had quite a few TBs in it when we stopped by a couple of weeks ago, but the paint job was wearing in spots and the white was more visible, though the container was still out of view. Want us to see what we can do for more camo, or are you coming up in the near future? Looks like the cache gets lots of visits. Yep. The bucket was still there.
I’ll be bringing something up to recamo it on the 19th for deer hunting. Thanks for the offer though! I’m kinda proud of that one. I set it up with Northern Lightz. I actually got the bucket and picked the spot. They were shocked at the size until I told them what it was for.
11/14/2009 at 10:00 pm #1890984I found a root system near the La Crosse River’s edge. It would be mostly inaccessible during the winter, as the water rises over the cache itself. That is the problem.
The cache description states to put it back tightly where it was found, but how many actually look at the descriptions of each cache before going out and finding it?
In any case, I imagine it is floating down the Mississippi. I did get my couple of laughs in with Geocachers falling in to the water, but that has kinda dried up now. It is now placed a few feet away, safe and sound, or almost as it is on a steep slope.
I have to give myself grief also. I don’t always read the descriptions as deeply as it should be. I will definitely work harder now to break that habbit.
Is this a common habit anyone?
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