What is a "Logable Cache"?

[kmhiker]

When at an event is it ok to log the caches that you found on the web site? At the Highcliff Campout I was tould that they where fun only. HELP!

[zoesbrother]

You can log everything but the TEMPS from the Campout.

[-cheeto-]

If the cache you found has a cache page and ID on geocaching.com you can log your finds on the website.

In the event book there were caches labeled “Temp” and caches labeled Permanent. The Temp caches were the ones with a spot for a stamp. Those temp ones cannot really be “logged” anywhere. Those are the one’s that were an activity of the event.

So yes, if you found some of the permanent caches while at High Cliff (such as Fish Out of Water, Little Blond Boys Cache, Rocky Road, etc.) go ahead and log your finds 🙂

[marc_54140]

OK, so I disagree with Cheeto again …….

Temporary caches can be logged.

The WGA had publicly declared it will not allow them to be logged on WGA event sites.

There are some cachers who disagree with this decision, and a permanent cache has been established in the Milwaukee area, by Uncle Fun, where you may log temp caches from anywhere.

The whole issue is whether temps should be counted.

It’s a discussion which will never see an end ….. so do what ever you want to.

[cheezehead]

*Stirring the pot again* How can you log a cache if it does not have a GC.com number??? Plain and simple. So I can go to this cache and log the dozen or so caches I have not found to get my similies right? Who’s gonna know or care? I can log the temps too, although I did not attend the event but I was there in spirit. KEWL!!!! 8) 🙄 OH! And don’t forget puzzle solves!!! You can log them too! Even the ones that you didn’t solve! Man, I just might be able to beat Zuma & The Bunnies to 10,000! Thanks for the idea!!! 🙄

[The Crippler]

While I personally do not subscribe to logging temporary caches anymore, I am a strong advocate of the cacher being able to “play” this game as they feel compelled to. Often times, individuals get too hung up on how a cache is found, solved, retrieved or logged by others rather than doing what personally gives them the most enjoyment. What I like most about this is how I choose to do it. I have friends that go only to caches to find trackables, I know people that do nothing but hide puzzle caches and I have met individuals that log temporary finds.

If you look at my daughter’s recent series of caches you will notice she allows for multiple logging of each of her stages “if you choose to do so” as it was always her intent to have 17 hides rather than the 5 GC.com approved. To date, about half the finders log all the stages and half log only the 4 multiple caches. Its their game, its their rules.

[marc_54140]

@cheezehead wrote:

*Stirring the pot again* How can you log a cache if it does not have a GC.com number??? Plain and simple. So I can go to this cache and log the dozen or so caches I have not found to get my similies right? Who’s gonna know or care? I can log the temps too, although I did not attend the event but I was there in spirit. KEWL!!!! 8) 🙄 OH! And don’t forget puzzle solves!!! You can log them too! Even the ones that you didn’t solve! Man, I just might be able to beat Zuma & The Bunnies to 10,000! Thanks for the idea!!! 🙄

Sarcasm does not befit you!

[marc_54140]

A Temporary cache can be just as well hidden and creative as a Permanent cache. And finding them can be the same …..

Therefore, if a person finding Temps wants to claim them, no one else has the right to nay say them.

[cheezehead]

Give me the GC # and I’ll log them, Logging them on another cache is not logging them. There is no diffrence betwen that and my sarcasam of possibilties. What’s to prevent me from logging any cache as a find? I go and log all your puzzle cache as finds on another cache, what are you going to about it? What can you do about it? I had a multi cache that I was the FTF. I found it, missed one of the waypoints, and could not figure out how to retrive it to sign the log, the next trip I did, but was the STF.

So I could place a 80 temps on the 80 acres I live on and one Perm. I say you can log them all if you can find the GC #, How do you log? 1 or 81 or you going to log the one cache down south 81 times?

So, that what I’m going to do Marc, Place one cache on the back 40, an ammo can at that. For anyone who has tried to solve your puzzles and couldn’t or haven’t even tried, can now log it as a find. All they do is post what the GC # is for the cache and claim it for the log. This cache should be the most found in Wisconsin cache in about a week!

[gotta run]

Sorry kmhiker, I bet you didn’t know what you were getting yourself into.

I was a bit confused about Marc’s response, and reconciling this with cheeto, so here’s what I think is the short story:

1. You cannot actually log a temporary cache because the cache does not exist on gc.com. That is, it does not have a GC number.

2. The practice used to be allowed by the WGA to log multiple “attended” logs on an event (like the campout). In this way, your smilely count would go up for temporary caches you found at the event even though there was not a way to individually log these caches. HOWEVER, the WGA board decided to disallow this practice at WGA events.

3. Because one side of this issue believes in the ability to log temp caches at an event, they have found ways around the inability to log temp caches. One such way is by Uncle_Fun’s cache GC1CH0W. If you feel like it, you can use this cache to log your temp finds by multi-logging this cache.

So the short version is, you CANNOT actually log a temp cache, because they do not exist on geocaching.com. However, you CAN make your smilely count go up if you choose to.

On the Left Side of the Road...

[cheezehead]

@gotta run wrote:

Sorry kmhiker, I bet you didn’t know what you were getting yourself into.

I was a bit confused about Marc’s response, and reconciling this with cheeto, so here’s what I think is the short story:

1. You cannot actually log a temporary cache because the cache does not exist on gc.com. That is, it does not have a GC number.

2. The practice used to be allowed by the WGA to log multiple “attended” logs on an event (like the campout). In this way, your smilely count would go up for temporary caches you found at the event even though there was not a way to individually log these caches. HOWEVER, the WGA board decided to disallow this practice at WGA events.

3. Because one side of this issue believes in the ability to log temp caches at an event, they have found ways around the inability to log temp caches. One such way is by Uncle_Fun’s cache GC1CH0W. If you feel like it, you can use this cache to log your temp finds by multi-logging this cache.

So the short version is, you CANNOT actually log a temp cache, because they do not exist on geocaching.com. However, you CAN make your smilely count go up if you choose to.

Yes, sorry for the rant kmhiker, but gotta run nailed it on the head. Those are your options.

[seldom|seen]

Considering the gyrations I’m going through to get 2 new puzzles caches published and making sure there is “significant GPS use” so no one can find them without a GPS, the content of this thread just has me shaking my head.

On the one hand, I have to do everything I can to make sure a phantom geocacher who elects to try finding an unknown but hinted at spot (in an image on a cache listing) in a large State Park by “search and destroy” methodology, is not able to,

While on the other hand I’m reading that you can get your smiley count up if you choose to do so, even if it goes against WGA and GC stated policy and that’s acceptable by some and must have been approved by the reviewers.

I did some of the temps at the campout. Some of them could easily have been done with just the map and the clue. Hmmm, “Red Bird”, I wonder where that cache is, guess I better get out my GPS…

This after reading the thread about the archived but ofter visited cache at GC.com HQ that you can still log a find on, but that you need to request coordinates for which is also against GC policy, and so on…

And the reviewers are wondering why I’m confused about their strict interpretations?

In the final analysis, it’s what you get out of the sport. I get more out of placing that finding which is why after 3 years and 200+ placed caches, most of those puzzles, I am still not in the 1K club and maybe never will be.
But some people like numbers and the competition that goes with it. Some people like FTF’s too (I know a spot where you can get as many of those as you want as well). Do what makes you feel better and enjoy the act of getting them.

I enjoy making MEMORABLE caches and will keep making them even though, on occasion, the fun fizzles as I jump through the 3rd or 4th hoop.
But I won’t be stopping anytime soon. As Adrock says “I got more product than Ron Popeil”

[-cheeto-]

I answered the question the original poster asked. All the rest of these posts are nonesense and don’t help the poster with what they wanted.

I figured this thread might turn into that old can of worms again…

See my post for the appropriate answer to your question. If you want to go find a cache in Milwaukee and log it multiple times and note on it which temp cache you found in Sherwood, WI then read more about this in some of the other posts.

I am on neither side of the “argument” and therefore Marc, you cannot disagree with me. I was merely answering their question. I was on the camp-out comittee on a WGA held event and answered it appropriately based on that role. I was not stating my opinion on the subject of logging multiple attended logs on an event for finding temp caches.

[Miata]

@seldom|seen wrote:

Considering the gyrations I’m going through to get 2 new puzzles caches published and making sure there is “significant GPS use” so no one can find them without a GPS, the content of this thread just has me shaking my head.

On the one hand, I have to do everything I can to make sure a phantom geocacher who elects to try finding an unknown but hinted at spot (in an image on a cache listing) in a large State Park by “search and destroy” methodology, is not able to,

While on the other hand I’m reading that you can get your smiley count up if you choose to do so, even if it goes against WGA and GC stated policy and that’s acceptable by some and must have been approved by the reviewers.

I did some of the temps at the campout. Some of them could easily have been done with just the map and the clue. Hmmm, “Red Bird”, I wonder where that cache is, guess I better get out my GPS…

This after reading the thread about the archived but ofter visited cache at GC.com HQ that you can still log a find on, but that you need to request coordinates for which is also against GC policy, and so on…

And the reviewers are wondering why I’m confused about their strict interpretations?

In the final analysis, it’s what you get out of the sport. I get more out of placing that finding which is why after 3 years and 200+ placed caches, most of those puzzles, I am still not in the 1K club and maybe never will be.
But some people like numbers and the competition that goes with it. Some people like FTF’s too (I know a spot where you can get as many of those as you want as well). Do what makes you feel better and enjoy the act of getting them.

I enjoy making MEMORABLE caches and will keep making them even though, on occasion, the fun fizzles as I jump through the 3rd or 4th hoop.
But I won’t be stopping anytime soon. As Adrock says “I got more product than Ron Popeil”

For what it’s worth Alex, I plan to do your book of armaments cache as my 2000th find Saturday. If I do another WGA function again, I plan on only meeting people and not looking for temps.

[Barry Butrymowicz]

@Miata wrote:

If I do another WGA function again, I plan on only meeting people and not looking for temps.

Finally someone has figured out what an event is for. Events should be for socializing, not be out and about all day and just be there for the picture. As we have stated in the past When the WGA holds an event without temp caches, then we might attend it. But then again, now at least Miata will be there to talk to while everyone is out trying to get all the temp smileys on Uncle fun’s Cache

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