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05/28/2011 at 8:24 pm #1947231
likely the page was never even read by the FTFer.
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05/28/2011 at 8:31 pm #1947232Thanks for the ideas. I did delete their post. Sent them a lenghty nice email explaining them why it was deleted. I hate deleting logs but really it is common sence not to find a school cache while school was in session.
Now I wonder what kind of reply will I get from them.
05/31/2011 at 5:28 pm #1947233The length of this thread and number of followers says something about a large cross-section of WGA cachers having some kind of opinion on a subject that effects all of us. For cache placers, the impetus to go out and place more quality caches is a direct correlation to how well their current caches are perceived, handled and replaced by the community at large. The more positive feedback you get, the more inclined you are to go out and place another one. This is especially true for the long-time players and placers whose maintenance load can quickly become overwhelming with a change of seasons or a swath of poorly re-placed, poorly re-hidden caches.
Most of us have felt the sting of an MIA cache soon after a pass by an individual or group out chasing numbers and in a hurry to move on. While I don’t get worked up anymore over simple copy-paste logs, I do get irritated when those copy-pasters do the disservice of not re-hiding my caches well in their haste. I realize I’m painting with a broad stroke and no one fits into a particular category.
To Sloughfoot, I’d suggest that you have to come to terms with the bad part of putting yourself time and talent out there for others to enjoy. Some people will not get it, or even take the time to care to get it. I hit a breaking point last year over this disparity between what I gave and what I got and like many of the time, decided to scale back. As a result, I have put out very few new caches and only Tributees when I do put one together. But I still revel on the good part of the game, the one in five logs that give me a chuckle, or a sense of satisfaction that someone went the distance on a solve or had a great time getting the physical cache.
Some of us who’ve been around the block a few times brought the idea up for a caching ethics class or merit badge. Given all that’s been said here (and we didn’t even touch on Trackables and Trash) I think the idea has merit. I think as a state, we should develop an Ethics Souvenir badge that can only be attained by attending a caching ethics class.
06/02/2011 at 7:45 pm #1947234Go to parade = candy.
Finding cache = smiley.
attend class = ethics merit badge.If only the boy scouts had it so easy.
06/04/2011 at 9:04 pm #1947235This is in response to David Cantrell’s post regarding deleting a log of someone that didin’t follow the cache description guidelines… The only log that I ever deleted was that of a newbie, who in their eagerness for their 1st FTF went to one of my WSQs at 04:30 when official dawn was 06:20… Deleting a 1st FTF wasn’t easy thing to do, but in their log, the cacher stated that he was ignoring my request that the search was to be made during daylight hours only… In fact had he searched during the daylight, he would have seen the sign stating that anyone found in the cemetery after dark would be prosecuted… Not following the rules/guidelines is what will really kill the game… You did the right thing…
06/04/2011 at 9:59 pm #1947236@seldom|seen wrote:
…But I still revel on the good part of the game, the one in five logs that give me a chuckle, or a sense of satisfaction that someone went the distance on a solve or had a great time getting the physical cache…
Reading some of the posts I’ve missed and this comment for me, hits the nail on the head. If the quality of the hunt and find reaches that personal peak for each of us, let the cache owner know.
I strive to do this for those certain caches. Another way of saying thank you.
06/07/2011 at 11:17 pm #1947237What else can kill the game? A cache page that has little description of the cache itself. Examples:
“Bison tube. BYOP.”
“On ATV trail. “
“Should be an easy find.”
If that’s all the cache page is gonna say, then I probably wont visit the cache. Tell me a story on why the cache was placed to give me a reason why I should visit said cache. Otherwise I’m not gonna bother unless I’m in the area anyways.
Off the soapbox..
06/08/2011 at 1:40 am #1947238Yes! Thank you Todd300!
I don’t think it will kill the game, but it is really hard to write much more than a single line log when the cache description is “Easy micro”.07/31/2011 at 3:23 am #1947239In answer to the original question, one word: cowards.
On the Left Side of the Road...12/02/2011 at 1:15 am #1947240@GetMeOutdoors wrote:
Speaking of GOOD log writers, One Paddle Short is one of the best log writers I know! Informative, interesting, and gracious. I nominate him for a special “Attaboy” prize.
One Paddle Short archived all of his caches because he was tired of the TFTC logs. Funny thing is, he left all of his geo-junk in the woods and is refusing to honor Found It logs on his “now-archived-but-still-in-the-woods-caches”. Nice eh? I thought since he’s deleted my valid found it logs about a dozen times now that I’d call attention to him here to see what you all think.
12/02/2011 at 3:02 am #1947241I would say if the container is still there that you should be able to log them. I have found archived caches before when I was using an out of date query and then logged them with no problem from the owner.
If I were to archive all of my caches I would expect to pick them up or else I would post a note when they were archived saying the next finder could keep them for placement somewhere else.
12/02/2011 at 3:08 am #1947242Could contact Groundspeak, They can lock your posts so they can not be deleted.
12/02/2011 at 3:21 am #1947243@sweetlife wrote:
Could contact Groundspeak, They can lock your posts so they can not be deleted.
They’ve been contacted, slow to respond. I just don’t understand the utter and complete bitterness about needing logs on caches to conform to some standard that he finds acceptable. Is that arrogance or what. I own a couple hundred caches myself and would love it if every one of the logs were top notch. But that’s not reality and I can’t imagine getting into a pissing match over it.
12/02/2011 at 4:13 am #1947244@Todd300 wrote:
What else can kill the game? A cache page that has little description of the cache itself. Examples:
“Bison tube. BYOP.”
“On ATV trail. “
“Should be an easy find.”
If that’s all the cache page is gonna say, then I probably wont visit the cache. Tell me a story on why the cache was placed to give me a reason why I should visit said cache. Otherwise I’m not gonna bother unless I’m in the area anyways.
Off the soapbox..
“When you go to hide a geocache, think of the reason you are bringing people to that spot. If the only reason is for the geocache, then find a better spot.” – briansnat
Just another quote that I found. It’s one of those things that “just makes sense”, but unfortunately not everyone agrees with it. We use geocaching to take us to places that other hikers would like to share with us, if asked.
12/02/2011 at 1:35 pm #1947245Hmmmmmmmm…
Maybe they are still listed as caches on another site?
Why are you looking for them anyway? Just curious…Simply working off an old query, or….??? You mention cacheS…plural….???
Either way, they aren’t published on geocaching.com any more. Now, I have logged archived caches as found that I’ve done rescue missions on but if the owner didn’t allow it, so be it. Move on, more important things in life to do.
If you think the caches should be removed, file a rescue mission on this site and a reviewer will look at it.
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