which do you like

[TyeDyeSkyGuy]

@vtwinspin wrote:

which do you like

I think the important question here is; which do you like?

Hide caches you like to hide/find. That’s the simple answer, and maybe the best. The reason I say this is because you are not going to please all the cachers all the time. I know this first hand.

I have caches of all types, sizes and placements, and I get fan mail and hate mail for them all, even the easy ones. Some people don’t like hides made of nuts and bolts that appear to be original to machinery, some do. Some people don’t like walking a half mile over rocks to find an ammo can, some do. Some people don’t like having to use a boat to get to a cache, and some do. There are even people who will bash individuals (GONIL Forums) because you put a pill bottle in a tree crotch or a magnetic under a park bench.

If all caches were perfect for everyone, there would then be someone still to complain that all caches were the same.

Plant the cache styles and types that you like to find/hide, and make yourself happy. It will be worth it in the end.

[gotta run]

With the original question being

what would you rather find a easy cache or one that take some real looking to find

it seems the common thread is make the cache WORTHWHILE to find.

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[elfdoctors]

I like unique and beautiful locations.

The caches I most dislike are the ones I am forced to give up on because there are too many muggles (please provide a hint for these locations). In addition I don’t like hides which have caused the terrain around a cache to become torn up by previous cachers because of a needlessly difficult hide.

[djwini]

maybe another question to ask yourself is, do you want the cache to be found? i want people to find my boxes. and because i don’t look for micro caches, i would never hide a micro. i love the reward of signing the log. i very rarely look at the star ratings of a cache, so it’s hit or miss if i am going to come across a very hard cache. and most of the time, if i go and look and can’t find it, they go on my ignore list. as was said earlier, gas is getting very expensive.

[3 Hawks]

rogheff wrote:

Is the long, beautiful hike that takes you to a scenic location in search of a regular cache, really worth the effort if all you find is a musty peanut butter jar, filled with moldy MacToys and an unusable log, in the end?

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YES!!

By the way….every opinion and comment is not always aimed at a specific person or group. I see a few names in this thread who have never even hunted for a Rogheff cache and live on the other side of the state.

I’ve enjoyed almost every one of your caches at some level. I appreciate all of the work you put into placing caches and I wish I was half as creative. If I didn’t like them, I wouldn’t keep coming back.

The “not posting the size of the container” thing was not specifically aimed at any one person or group. I see it all over the place and it is often not associated with anything spectacular or creative at the end.

Yes…everyone should go ahead and play however they want but this game is all about bringing people together in the pursuit of a passion. It is not about trying to show how superior you are to the next person and it is not about placing caches for only a select few members of a crew or regional click.

People who know a hiders tendencies have the option of choosing not to engage in a search but those who don’t know the practices, intent, and tendencies have no idea what they are getting into.

Every effort should always be made to make the hunt enjoyable for the average cacher. Assume the people who hunt your cache have never hunted one of yours before. A properly equipped and informed cacher will not be angry with a DNF as long as every effort has been made to make the hunt enjoyable no matter the difficulty. A properly informed cacher has enough information to decide if they want to hunt for a specific cache.

Why should any cacher have to choose not to hunt caches that don’t list the size? In my opinion that is exclusivity and it is not an acceptable practice or stance. How in the heck would a visiting cacher from another state know what they are getting into. The sport is intended to be open to anyone and everyone.

I don’t get overly upset with a DNF unless I see something wrong. Nobody likes DNF’s but it is part of the game and it is expected from time to time.

I like variety, so go ahead and place anything you like. Just play fair and keep it honest. That’s all I expect and I hope others would agree with this.

If I’ve offended, I’m sorry. Once again, I’m entitled to my opinion and you to yours. The simple fact that everyone will not always agree is what makes life interesting.

[brkster]

I prefer the hikes off of trails leading to easier finds, but I will take on the challenging caches in the area I live in as well. I believe that any given day, ANY cache can be a challenge. I’ve noticed a trend for a while of smaller containers and micros being more prevalent, but after recently hiding an ammo box in what I thought was a nice out-of-the-way area, and having its contents totally depleted by teen muggles(surprised to see that they left the ammo box plus it’s camo), I can see why people prefer to hide micros. Nowadays, caches come in all sizes, shapes, and degrees of difficulty getting to or finding them. Take your pick.

[zuma]

@Team Deejay wrote:

It doesn’t really matter, but it seems that most of the really “hard” caches are placed in really boring locations, i.e. picnic shelters, small city parks, playgrounds, etc. I’d much rather have a 4 star terrain HIKE than a 4 star difficulty hide.
[rant mode on]
Most of the difficult hides are made that way by bad coordinates, tiny containers, and “needle-in-a-haystack” type hides. We all love clever hides, but they only comprise maybe 10% of the “hard” caches that I have found. The typical “hard” cache is a nano hidden in a fence with 10000 possible openings and coordinates that put GZ 100 feet away from the nearest point on the fence. Oooh, what fun! After people place such a cache, then, because they know its hard, they don’t bother to respond to DNF logs or post maintenance notes, because it is just too much trouble check after every DNF.
[rant mode off]

If you are not willing to continuously check on your caches as they get DNFed, don’t place hard caches. Find a spot you want to share and place a normal cache there. People will thank you for it.

Bottom line: Place the kind of caches that you enjoy finding. Maybe your neighbors will copy you and then you will have more caches to find that you like.

Just want to echo Team Deejay on this. Right on.

I would just add, that I enjoy variety in caches, some easy to find, and some more challenging. But either way, the cache should take me some place worth being, worth discovering. Try to not put difficult caches in spots just because you can make em hard to find, without much effort. There is nothing clever about a breath mint container in a park shelter. There is nothing clever about a fake rock in a rock pile. There is nothing clever about a nano on a tank. There is nothing clever about a film can in a grove of pine trees. If I get to a place that has a lame hide like that, I generally look for a few minutes, and then move on.

On the other hand, if you take me to an interesting area, with few muggles around, and come up with a genuine clever hide, I will stay until I find it, even if that is an hour or more. So it depends more on the place you choose for the difficult hide, rather than how difficult it is.

zuma

[greyhounder]

As frustrating as they can be, I really prefer the challenging ones. I like the feeling I get when I find a clever or just well hidden cache.

That being said, sometimes I just wanna find a cache and an easy one will suffice…

Bec

[Hylife]

I don’t mind difficult hides..as long as they’re appropriate for their location.

When I find a microscopic micro thrown into a rockpile covered by leaves in the middle of a woods; I don’t think that’s fun. When I find an ammo-box that is cammoed so well it took me four visits to find them, I say where’s the bookmark list with other caches of this type.

Like others said, it’s all about preference I guess..but the middle-of-nowhere micros are not for me..

[cekcacher]

I enjoy – – –
New places, parks, trails.
Learning Wisconsin History.
Clever hides.
Good, “not-too-difficult” puzzles.
Great scenery.
Cache series.
WQS caches.

I don’t like – – –
Bad coord’s.
Poorly maintained caches.
Rock caches.
Caches above 7′ high (without a safe means to access them).
Caches in “dumpy” areas, littered with trash.
. . . and ticks!

[LMcGisme]

@vtwinspin wrote:

what would you rather find a easy cache or one that take some real looking to find

I like the cache hunt to balance out. If its a long or hard hike then I like an easier find at the end. If its a short, easy walk then I prefer a more challenging hide. When it comes to challenging hides I prefer ones that are hard because of the camo or unique hiding spot, not one that’s hard because its a micro hidden in an area with a bazillion places you could stick a micro. But as others have said, hide what you like to hunt.

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