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@bugsmasher69 wrote:
But if I go log three finds for a three part multi I would be run out of the area.
Not really, you can do that on the GC.com website and is up to the cache owner to decide if you are correct in doing so.
Posts like these are why once and for all, a decision needs to be made and put into play by our BOD. Is there any question now, why we need to resolve this.
It’s almost like having an opinion is no longer an option.
I’m personally surprised at how vehement the point is. I’m starting to be glad I’m new to this. 🙂
WOOT! This subject really gets the emotions going!
OK let me get this straight — cache owner gives me coordinates (maybe lots of coordinates), I go out in the woods, find stuff, log my find. Sounds like a smiley for each to me! It should be up to the owner what counts, IMHO.
The thing about events. Say you go to the camp out. You show up, drink some brews, sleep off your hangover, eat a few dogs, roast smores, drink more brews, sleep off another hangover, wake up in time for a pancake or two, and then head home. Yea! You get a smiley. Good for you. Meanwhile, the guy next to you gets up early, and hits the trails hard. He foregoes an extra smore to do the night caches. He searches the next morning to help haul in temps. And he gets….one smiley?
I understand that the temps at events started out that way because the DNR originally prohibited permanent caches in the state parks. They are legal now (due to the efforts of the WGA!), but it is not necessarily a good thing to set up dozens of permanents for events. Even when they meet the criterion for a legal cache, events are often held in remote locations, and it would be unlikely that all those caches could be properly maintained as permanents. Best to do ’em as temps and haul them in, maybe leaving some of the better ones as permanents.
Would I go to an event if I couldn’t log temps? Of course! The camp-out’s have been a blast, and I have really engoyed Auntie Nae’s Halloween Shin-digs in Greenfield. And geocaching inspires enough of my OCD personality that I would probably look for a temp or two. But I suspect that I would not be getting up as early…Peace and Love Everyone!
@-cheeto- wrote:
I think I am going to build a cache that allows as many finds as people want to log.
-cheeto-Don’t try it! I just tried it on a multi-part cache and the cache was disabled for two reasons, one of which was, and I quote, “I do have to discourage multiple logging of the cache.”
On the Left Side of the Road...I was joking by the way in my raving mad rant post…. I probably would not make a cache like that. But I thought it was pretty funny when I read back my post the next day 🙂
@-cheeto- wrote:
I probably would not make a cache like that.
Why not? I am aware of some recently published caches–single containers–specifically designed to be logged multiple times as part of meeting various requirements.
And HECK NO! I am NOT going to list the GC numbers of those here so someone can go and check if they are non compliant! I’m not out to ruin anyone’s fun!!!!!!!!
On the Left Side of the Road...@Gusty Winds wrote:
😈 Log them all… it gets Criminal all bent 😈
And that is just too cool. 😀
One more card to play…
“Beating a dead horse” is an idiom that means a particular request or line of conversation is already foreclosed, mooted, or otherwise resolved, and any attempt to continue it is futile. In British English and Australian English, the phrase is usually expressed as “flogging a dead horse”.
This is not a foreclosed issue. The WGA board could make a decision to stop the multiple logging of WGA events – hence the endless posting. The very fact that you’re taking the time to post the “dead horse” card shows that you don’t think it’s a foreclosed issue either (else why bother?). One of the things I notice every time this comes up is the folks that think it may be time for the WGA to stop endorsing the logging of temps at WGA events offer facts, arguments, and reasoning. Most of the folks on the other side name call, post rants, and stuff like this…
Why are you so afraid of people getting to vote on the subject? It’s not even a binding vote. Relax a little…
Thanks for sharing the Wiki definition regarding the origin of the abuse of deceased equines. Apparently, I’m not the only one who needs to relax.
Obviously, I was mistaken, and in the spirit of togetherness, we need to fix this dead horse. We can try:
1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Say things like, “This is the way we have always ridden this horse.”
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9. Comparing the state of dead horses in today’s environment.
10. Change the requirements declaring that “This horse is not dead.”
11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13. Declaring that “No horse is too dead to beat.”
14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse’s performance.
15. Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17. Declare the horse is “better, faster and cheaper” dead.
18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.I understand that this topic (and others) has popped up periodically over the years, and for some is getting quite old. But I would like to respectfully point out the fair number of new posters and a good number of the 800+ members who read this and the other thread who may not have ever heard of this controversy.
A HEALTHY dialogue on the same topic every now and then keeps the new members informed of the other options and ideas out there. We’re getting new members all the time. Let’s not discourage a healthy debate……..as long as it doesn’t get personal.
When we first started geocaching it was over a year before we even learned that people considered it ok to multi-log events. It was right here in the forums that we learned that people did this. It wouldn’t have even ocurred to us that it was even an option if we hadn’t read the WGA forums, so I actually hope it keeps getting brought up! It’s very entertaining reading too!
Regardless of what stance the WGA takes I just hope they take one. Either the WGA supports the multi-logging of their events or they don’t. No more wishywashiness. (is that a word?)
@dcexplorer wrote:
Thanks for sharing the Wiki definition regarding the origin of the abuse of deceased equines. Apparently, I’m not the only one who needs to relax.
Obviously, I was mistaken, and in the spirit of togetherness, we need to fix this dead horse. We can try:
1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Say things like, “This is the way we have always ridden this horse.”
4. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses.
6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses.
7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse.
8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability.
9. Comparing the state of dead horses in today’s environment.
10. Change the requirements declaring that “This horse is not dead.”
11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse.
12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed.
13. Declaring that “No horse is too dead to beat.”
14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse’s performance.
15. Do a Cost Analysis study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper.
16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster.
17. Declare the horse is “better, faster and cheaper” dead.
18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses.
19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses.
20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable.
21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position.NOW THAT”S FUNNY!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😉 😉 😆 😆 8) 8)
Why are you so afraid of people getting to vote on the subject?
I ask again…
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