Why not place a cache in a SNA? (State Natural Area)

[kbraband]

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Originally posted by DCexplorer:
Thanks for taking the time for the detailed response. However, if these are the reasons for the DNR discouraging SNA bans, I stand by my assertion that common sense would be a better determination of placement than an arbitrary ban.

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Unfortunately, common sense would be the arbitrary thing, not a ban on caches in SNAs. What may be common sense to you and me is not the same for another person. On the other hand, a ban on caches in SNAs would not be arbitrary. It would be done for specific reasons and for the good of the cooperation between the geocachers and the DNR.

[arffer]

DCExplorer,

Regarding my Kangaroo Lake – Tie Me Kangaroo Down cache. You are correct it is in an SNA. However, in my defense, this park became an SNA in 2002, after I placed the cache.

I have now archived it and will remove it when I am up there in the very near future.

When you find instances like this, just email the cache owner to bring it to their attention so it can be corrected. If they fail to comply, then bring it to the attention of the WGA board.

[DCexplorer]

Are these maps you’re using to determine SNA boundaries available to the general public? The DNR site has nice descriptions of the flora and fauna, but little help in determining the actual boundaries of SNAs such as Europe Bay and Rock Island Woods. That would clear up a lot of confusion.

As far as Kangaroo Lake, since that SNA is owned by the Nature Conservancy and the Door County Land Trust, perhaps contacting the local land manager for approval, like CP Blacksmith did for “Top of Niagara,” would be a way to avoid archiving it.

Same with Ellison Bluff; as kbraband noted, he “grandfathered” the ominous “Devils Lake Revisited.” You could do the same with Ellison Bluff, or seek permission from the county to leave it. With all the trails they’re bulldozing into the bluff, not disturbing the ecosystem isn’t a priority up there.

[kbraband]

CD, Please see my response to your question in your other topic: Maps

[DCexplorer]

I found those maps, and they seem helpful if they’re available, but they aren’t available for all the SNAs. I clicked on North Bay, for example, and maps weren’t available there.

[DCexplorer]

Another SNA, Mud Lake, has two maps pointed to two different Mud Lakes. Hmmm…

[kbraband]

Now you get a sense of what that admins have to go through to approve caches. Imagine how hard it was before the DNR made the existing maps available. Even though there may not be a map available for every SNA, there is a description of all SNA boundaries so cache-placers should be able to tell in advance if the cache they wish to place is within an SNA.

[arffer]

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Originally posted by DCexplorer:
As far as Kangaroo Lake, since that SNA is owned by the Nature Conservancy and the Door County Land Trust, perhaps contacting the local land manager for approval, like CP Blacksmith did for “Top of Niagara,” would be a way to avoid archiving it.

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This is just my personal policy, but as tyhe DNR requested no caches in SNAs, I will not knowingly own one in an SNA, regardless of what loacl manager may say. Its an SNA, I’ll respect the DNR’s wishes and not try and go around them.

As for SNAs with out maps, the topo quad is always given in the SNA’s text description, so it is not that hard to know if you are in an SNA.

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