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@zuma wrote:
The move to a different host for the site is not in any way a reflection of unhappiness with the help you have provided.
I sure hope I didn’t come across in any way that implied I felt there was a problem. I most assuredly know the reason, and concur completely with the move.
It is a very good idea, and we want to help make it as smooth and as transparent a move as can be done.
Thanks for the nice comments, but no thanks are necessary 🙂
This organization, from the founding meeting in Yawningdog’s cigar room/garage, has always been much greater than the sum of its parts. So many people have stepped up when needed to make it a great association of geocachers.
I think the best testament to this is the fact that it continues to grow and thrive every year, even though there are almost none of the originals still guiding it. I recognize almost none of the names currently giving life to WGA, it really has become alive of itself!
So, if any kudos are deserved, its the membership at large, each of you, that deserves it.
I now that Arlene and I are not very active webmasters of the site, but as we are still listed on the site as webmasters, and are hosting the server and domain, it might be helpful for communications to keep our access up on the Website Committee forum.
Once the move is done, it would be best to pull us off that forum, and our names off the website webmaster list. But for now, it might be easier to ask questions or make plans known if we were still on the forum. ‘ex officio’ members.
@zuma wrote:
Please note the following motion has been passed by the board:
Whereas the WGA website is currently running on a dedicated server co-hosted by Elknet,
Just for historical sake…
My name is Alan, and my wife, Arlene, and I along with 5 others were the founders of WGA. My wife created the original WGA website and I hosted it on the ElkNet ISP that I was the director of. Jeremy was in as another webmaster right from the start, and I contributed a few scripts along the way.
If you are interested in seeing the original WGA site, you can do so HERE. Quite a few early versions are viewable, rather fun to see!
Back in 2005 my wife took over the commercial side of ElkNet into her own company, and from that point on she has solely hosted the WGA website at her company, IXNet Services LLC.
In the Fall of 2006, Jeremy built and donated a brand new server for the website, which was placed at my wife’s company, and Jeremy redesigned the WGA website from the ground up.
The website has been running in that configuration since then. My wife and I over the years moved off the BOD of WGA, and have pretty much retired from geocaching. This increased the load on Jeremy, and while others stepped up to work alongside him as webmasters, it is still a significant effort for them to support a physical dedicated server.
While Arlene and I are happy to continue to host the WGA server, it makes sense from a support standpoint to move the WGA site to a virtual server.
Okay folks, the server move is planned for tomorrow afternoon. The server should be unavailable between noon-ish and back up by 3PM. Sorry for any frustrations this may cause, but the WGA server will be in a much better place!
-Alan (Team CacheCows)
Due to some small network changes being made at our server site, I am delaying the server move for a day or two. I’ll post here when I schedule the move. Thanks!
excuse me while I wipe the cobwebs off of ourselves
Seems Arn and I save our caching for the annual campout these past few years. Things have changed in major ways from when we started in 2001 when there were less than 500 caches in the whole state. If you saw another car parked at a new cache site, odds were you knew who it was
But as change occurred, we simply drifted away…
But we still love the campout and seeing all our old timer friends, plus making some new friends.
-Alan
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Originally posted by Cathunter:
Grabbing data off other people’s servers without their authorization borders on being a crime.
Are you of the opinion then that when someone creates a website, open to the public, with no security, password or otherwise, that permission to view that page is not implied?
When you go and view http://www.google.com, permission is not implied that you are allowed to view the page?
Because that is exactly what WGA’s Recent Logs page does. It uses a very basic browser (wget) to simply view geocaching.com’s recent log page.
No access is made to any of their databases, no logon to their system is done.
I’m simply not familier with such a broad definition of ‘data mining’, nor am I familier with the laws we are encroaching on.
Lets not forget that during the voting process, all of the caches that have been nominated are listed. The idea behind COTM is two fold:
1) Allows folks to see the list of caches during the month that have been enjoyed by other(s) enough to nominate, so they might be worthy of a trip to hunt.
2) Rewards those that put extra effort into making an above average cache (and hopefully inspire others to try as well).
Sure its a popularity contest; its a contest to find the popular caches each month so the rest of us can go see what’s so great about them and judge for ourselves.
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited 02-26-2006).]
Jonathan,
Arn & I are saddened to hear of your trials and having to withdraw from caching. A lot of our memories relate to your stories and your caches. I hope you will be able to stay active on the forums, we would all hate to lose touch with you. This has happened with another geocaching friend, I hope contact isn’t lost with us. Know we care and praying for you.-Alan & Arlene
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Originally posted by jvechinski:
Actually the membership list was never supposed to list the expired members. However the query used to generate the list was missing one important filter criteria (not sure if this was my doing or Alan’s), and this caused the expired members to also appear.
It was me. It was a feature I had good intentions of remembering to add in before the first year renewals came due, but I failed to ever actually carry through and add it. Jeremey, thanks for caring for it!
My favorite spell check tool is Spellcheck Net. Just paste in all your text, click on the Spellcheck Text button, use the drop down menus that appear on possibly mis-spelled words, select the correct spelling, and when done, Apply Changes. Then copy the now correctly spelled text, and copy and paste it back into your post.
Each body of text you paste in for spell checking can be up to 20k in size too.
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Originally posted by pcfrog:
One of those wonderful duties of board members is to reply to post made by individuals.
Speaking as one of the founders of WGA, and one of the co-writers of the bylaws, and as a past board member, I must say I’m at a loss as to where it is stated that one of the responsibilities of a board member is to respond to posts made on these forums by individuals.
Sure, its nice to do, and we often see it happen, but a responsibility?
It IS clearly stated on this website under the bylaws that the treasurer will make an annual report to the membership. So maybe if those complaining took the responsibility to read what IS posted on this site, they would refrain from false accusations regarding our BOD hiding the financial reports.
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Originally posted by wzbt03:
…decided that to drop out of sight or keep quiet is not the proper option.
I see nothing wrong with that option… Please, feel free to avail yourself of it.
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited 01-30-2006).]
Tangent warning!
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Originally posted by EnergySaver:
Better off spending buying an old diesel car and converting it yourself to run on french fry oil … the kits about $795
Or, spend about $50 in simple filters and junk drawer odds and ends and do the same. I bought my very first diesel (1982 Mercedes 300SD Turbo, $300) a few months back, and used waste vegitable oil from a local burger joint in it. Ran fantastic, cost me about $0.80/gal. Smelled like I was making french fries as I drove down the road.
There are three ways to run a diesel on waste vegitable oil (WVO); convert it at home to biodiesel, install a heated storage/delivery system to thin the oil (that’s the $795 system), or filter it and cut it with solevents (called running a blend).
I did the blend method. Tried a few, oddly enough my first blend gave me the best cold weather results: 80% waste oil cut with 20% regular unleaded gasoline (rug).
Same power as diesel, safe for most diesel engines, especially older ones. But do your research before doing this (disclaimer).
Sadly, my MB is no more. Unrelated to running WVO, the crankshaft pully bolt sheared off, $600 just to extract it with no guarentee of being ably to retap the crankshaft. Metal fatigue… bummer, engine runs great, but with no pully, there is no water pump, no power steering, no alternator etc.
So, I just picked up an odd one; 1985 Ford Tempo with a Mazda diesel in it. I bought it in Detroit, and driving home I got an actual 64.5 mpg! Now to start running waste oil in it
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Originally posted by Flushingrouse:
What about the people who spend so much of their personal time organizing an event? How about the people who drive, sometimes hours to “check out” locations for an upcoming event? Or, the people making the phone calls reserving campsites, pavillions, etc…? People who hide the caches at events..? Should these activitise be worth a couple of finds or count towards “caches hidden”?
Hmmm. I hadn’t thought of this point. Now that I think about it, yes, it does make a lot of sense that those hiding/creating the temp caches for events should also be allowed to ‘log’ (not quite the right word) their hides so their profiles refelct the number of caches they have hidden. But as there is no method to do this presently on gc.com, guess it will have to wait…
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