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Originally posted by kbraband:
If you believe that I KNOW you’ve really got to get out more!
Okay, there is one thing more exciting… when you’re hunting a cache, you see it peaking from under a log, you reach for it and…
Your alpha pager goes off with the message ‘Someone found your cache!‘
Now THAT’s FUN!
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Originally posted by jvechinski:
My big concern is that requiring people to pay will slow the growth of the sport. If all the good caches are for ‘members-only’ then newcomers who decide to try out the sport before becoming a member will be disappointed. Hopefully a large number of caches will remain free to help lure others in…
Now I’m no psychic (perhaps psychotic!), but I’m betting that the new mocaches will be very far and few between. Why?
Consider all the hype and flaming on the forums regarding people that don’t log caches on the website… Why so much controversy? Its because most cache owners live for the recognition their caches get in being hunted. There are few things more exciting than that e-Mail ‘Someone found your cache!’.
I’ll bet that it will take special circumstances indeed for someone to use the ‘Members Only’ option on a cache, knowing full well it will greatly decrease the number of people that can hunt the cache. Sure, at first there will be a flurry of new feature-itis with folks trying out the new feature, but this will fade and expect to see many mocaches turned back into regular caches.
Plus, some of the caches that warrant being mocaches will probably revert back to regular caches once the good stuff is gone…
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Originally posted by Thraxman:
Seems to me that if just anyone wants, they can pay 3 bucks and have access to the caches for a month, even if they never hunted one before, so I don’t know that it is a viable method of “cache protection”, as we were discussing before.
I don’t know if this feature is implemented yet or not, but here is what Jeremy posted regarding how Member Only caches will help control plundering:
The other issue, that I haven’t addressed on the subscription page, is that some folks have become targets by anonymous troublemakers that like to destroy individual’s caches. Subscription only caches will allow you to audit your cache to see who looked at your cache page and when. In addition, a certain amount of anonymity goes away when you subscribe, so troublemakers will either not bother subscribing or be scared to subscribe since they are no longer anonymous.
hey Thrax!
The J-Man had posted in a thread that the T-Shirt sales weren’t cutting it anymore. Four servers plus the bandwidth plus the support time were getting expensive. Somewhere recently I saw a post on how many millions of hits he was getting in a month.
Now, if I found out that Jeremy was making gobs of cash already off the site without implementing the pay option, I would feel different, but I am guessing that he isn’t.
I don’t know… if $3/month is all I have to pay for the fun I’m having, and even then paying is an option, I guess I couldn’t care less if Jeremy became a millionare from it. Its unlikely, but if it happened, more power to him. What is wrong with him profiting from running his site? Its not Geocaching per se that he would be charging for, but rather for the tool he provides. No one has to use the tool he offers us… we could use navicache, or we could just post co-ordiantes on the GPS newsgroups just like how caching got started before Jeremy’s site existed.
kbraband,
I hope you do feel differently this morning. As I for one can’t figure out why Wisconsin Cachers would want to boycott this. Is it the $3/month that’s too much? Is it the Member Only caches (which are very similier to what we talked about on the Help forum related to invite only caches) you don’t like?Personally, I think trying to start a groundswell effort to boycott Jeremy’s membership option is not called for. If an individual doesn’t want to participate, fine, use the site like you always have and don’t become a member.
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited March 07, 2002).]
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Originally posted by Thraxman:
Maybe nobody will like this idea… BUT… here goes…Ceate a website called http://www.progeocaching.com
Membership to this site would have fairly strict requirements (Possibilities would include finding at least 25 caches from geocaching.com, prior attendance at some geocaching event or gathering, anything that shows a potential member is a bona-fide geocacher, and not just some dirtbag out to ruin people’s fun or raid valuable caches).
This site would be for posting caches with higher than normal value, like YDs Collecable Cache…
Looks like the J-Man was thinking along the same lines we were. Even came up with a new geocaching sniglet, mocache. Geocaching.com now offers paid memberships ($3/month, $30/yr), and members can mark a cache as a ‘member’s only’ cache. Others can see its listing, but only members can read the details!
See HEREWe love it, and signed right up! First, its nice to see the J-Man getting something out of it, we think it makes it more likely he will stick with the activity. probably see some quicker improvements too. Plus, this answers our topic on the Help forum regarding how to prevent ‘above average content’ caches from being plundered. Just make them a ‘Member Only’ cache. Then, at your whim, you can later change them to a general cache. I tried it out, member only caches still show up in the search pages, just listed as member only caches. Its just a checkbox on the edit page to turn the feature on and off.
Just to clarify, you can vote for any cache that you consider to be your favorite. It does not need to be a new cache that was planted in the month you are voting. Vote for your favorite recent cache hunt, or for your all time favorite that just sticks in your head.
And hey, while we’re on this topic…
Remember to vote for your favorite March cache! Votes are accepted till the end of the month, the ballot is found on the http://wi-geocaching.com/cotm page.
Also, we do need article submissions. Got something interesting to talk or comment about? Write it up and e-Mail it to us at [email protected]. No promises, but you might get published here!
In your requirements, you didn’t mention what to us, IOHO, is the most important requirements: a Quadrifiler helix antenna, affectionatly known as a ‘quad antenna’, vs. the ‘patch antenna’ that some GPSRs use. The quad antenna makes a significant difference in reception under heavy tree cover and damp, rainy, or overcast days.
Your requirement for electronic compass really narrows the field. Few GPSRs have this feature. When you add in the requirment for an external antenna I’m not aware of any model from Garmin, Magellan, or Lowrance. Garmin’s GPSMap 76s will have both features when its released.
The models with compass we know of are:
- Garmin Vista – patch antenna
- Garmin Summit – patch antenna
- Magellen Meridian Platinum – quad antenna
If you can pass on the electronic compass, we’d recommend:
- Lowrance GM100 – external antenna, builtin quad
- Magellan 330 – quad antenna
- Magellan 315 – quad antenna, but make sure you have the new firmware to correct the auto-averaging problem
- Garmin III, III+, or V
Have fun!
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited March 04, 2002).]
Thanks GLSailor!
I found this on another thread, its supposidly from the photographer:
#####################################The photographer, Ray Fagan wrote:
Would you believe that there are two versions of what happened? Both by
crew members??? The first “official” reason is that a face wire from the
starboard push knee got tangled (or whatever) and helped pull the boat with
it under the edge of the bridge. When the cable broke (came loose, etc.)
the boat popped up and was jammed by that starboard push knee. The current
did the rest.The other “official” version is that a face wire somehow got into the port
wheel before the boat ever got to the bridge. With only one propeller to
operate with, the boat couldn’t stop or back against the current. Again,
the current did the rest.Remember that this happened at the highest water level ever recorded on the
Warrior River. BTW: the bridge was open.We should have our new site up in a few days with the entire story including
pictures of most of the major players (bridge tender, captain,
photographer). For now, any other site you see the pictures on have stolen
my original site without my consent. I have been in touch with the owner of
the pictures and should have copyright approval shortly.Thanks,
Ray FaganHardest finds:
- [*]High and Dry just because of Alan’s error of not checking the obvious well enough, and not having a long enough arm.[*]Red Bridge Wonder again Alan’s fault. Little cacheCalf was heading right for where it was, but Alan has to call her back saying No, the GPSR says its over here.[*]Grant’s Tomb was not too hard to find, but murder to access. [*]Hell’s Hollow was the most exhausting, 8 miles over very hilly terrain in PA.[/list]
Good thread, thanks for the chance to share!
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited February 27, 2002).]
Congratulations Ken & Robin!
Commerating it in anyway? (seriously)
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Originally posted by Yawningdog:
Oh, come on now. This is getting silly. We can’t say “****s” on these pages? My vacuum cleaner ****s. Mud can **** your boot off.
This ****s.
What are you talking about? No one is stopping you from posting messages that have four asterixs in a row. See, I can even type five if I want to: *****
Just joking of course! Sorry about that, the filters were left in place from an old board I used to use this software from, and there was a kiddie and teen section. I’ve removed that block, although stronger ones are still in place. Lets see if it works:
Ahem… testing, 1-2-3 (is this thing on?) oh yeak, okay. ‘Mary had a ****** cleaner, and it sucked’.
There, see? It didn’t get blocked. Oh wait! Now what? Its blocking the word vacuum?
I’m taking a vote: Now that its allowed to post the evil word honeysuckle , do I hear any votes cast to have me filter truely evil words, like say stinging nettle or tick?
[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited February 25, 2002).]
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Originally posted by Yawningdog:
My standard comment to the emails that I’ve recieved is for the person to wait until the ice melts and then go there in a boat.
IN A BOAT?!! ARE YOU CRAZY?
Don’t you know boats kill people? I’ve got hundreds of people drowning while on a boat stories. It is totally irresponsible to place a cache that requires a boat!The QSL cards are a cool idea. Team CacheCows are very in favor of supporting anything along the lines of cache momentos. Just one other option…
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Originally posted by LeeLansinger:
…even when we do, offten it not something we could put on a wall or in a scrapbook to remind us of the hunt (and to show off to others).
We have kept every ‘trinket’ we’ve gotten while caching, and we do display them. We just recently ran out of display space and had to hire a carpenter to reproduce more of our shelves!
Click image to enlarge[This message has been edited by CacheCows (edited February 25, 2002).]
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