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@Todd300 wrote:
If OPS wants to archive all his caches because of one too many TFTC’s, that’s fine.
I don’t think the issue was that OPS archived his caches for TFTC logs. The issue was that the one cache was, and I assume still is, left in its hiding spot after being archived. OPS does list caches on opencaching.com but as of yet, this particular cache is not listed on that service. I didn’t check any other listing sites.
If OPS no longer intends for this cache to be found (and logged), he really should go out and collect it. I’ve found this cache and it’s two steps off a walking trail, hidden in a very obvious geobeacon (a stump with a hole in the middle). I could very easily see someone scouting for a spot to place a cache and zeroing in on this stump, only to find the archived cache still there.
@gotta run wrote:
Ah…no, it does not. I hope you are joking.
I was 😀 I was just poking fun at the notion that just because a geocache isn’t listed on geocaching.com, it doesn’t exist or after being archived is just geo-garbage.
@Team Black-Cat wrote:
As mentioned before…. Geocaching.com isn’t the only geocache listing website. Might want to check the other sites before yanking a perfectly good cache out of play…
You do know that once a cache is archived on geocaching.com, it instantly becomes geo-litter, right? 😯
That looks like a fun day of caching. A bit of a drive but I love hiking in the fall weather! Thanks for mentioning these, gotta run!
Not sure if you are able to get the cartridge to load OK into WhereYougo on Android, without transferring from your PC.
I’m pretty sure you can’t load it directly. I usually save the file to my desktop and then drag and drop it into the WhereYouGo folder on my Android.
Personally, the few Wherigo’s I’ve tried/completed, I haven’t had the issues of the game quitting but it’s always a good idea to save your progress as you go.
I have to go and do a search by location to even find my own challenge to read the logs.
If you go into your profile and click on Challenges, it should have any Challenge that you published listed near the bottom of the page.
Overall, I like challenges but I’m not exactly tearing out of the house to do them. If you’re selective, a challenge is almost identical to virtual caches.
I was going to state that I didn’t like the fact that you couldn’t see what challenges other cachers had completed in their profile but now you can.
I know it’s been talked about online before, but down in the SW part of the country they use an alternative rating system that’s pretty interesting. I believe it uses a combination of cache longevity and number of finders (i.e. harder caches don’t get hit as often and that makes them more “valuable” to the score) It’s only one example, and I think there are lots of ways to represent the “score”.
Maybe the LCG scoring system could be adapted for this purpose.
I do think the WGA should take on a mentoring role, especially to new cache hiders/finders. I don’t attend events, so perhaps the WGA already does this, but it sure seems like events are more about “come out and meet some fellow cachers and yuck it up for awhile and then go caching” than about teaching/learning about good cache placements and ethics. That’s all fine and good from a social aspect but it does nothing to curb the explosion of thoughtless micros hidden in front yards.
If GC.com isn’t going to, and it isn’t, then the WGA needs to pick up the torch in an effort to bring a sense of adventure back to geocaching. To a new cacher, finding a film canister behind a guardrail can be a big thrill. Same with a nano on a stop sign or a bison tube in a bush. After the newness wears off, those cachers will either seek out more challenging/adventurous caches or give up the game entirely, wondering how anyone could enjoy doing something so repetitive. If they never leave the city, they may believe that caches are little more than film cans and nanos hidden in nondescript places. Why waste gas to find those?
@CodeJunkie wrote:
@Team Black-Cat wrote:
@conductorBrian wrote:
I’ve thought about doing a multi with the waypoints set up as QR codes. Should be able to do it with a standard QR reader app. No Munzee required.
I considered that also, but then I thought about how seldom regular multis get found. Add in the special equipment and it will get found even less.
There’s one of these in the Land of Sellzup.
Yes, and it works pretty well.
I did BakRdz’s Munzee in OshVegas today and it went better than I expected. I say that because I’ve never used my smartphone for navigation and it guided me from Menominee Park to OshVegas and did it as well as my Nuvi would’ve. That was a pleasant surprise. I had to learn a bit once at the site on how to get to the scan screen, but once I did it worked like a charm.
I could also see using a Munzee scan as an alternate to signing the log on a micro (or even large logbooks…noone writes more than name/date nowadays).@Hardinfam wrote:
The problem isn’t the hides always sometimes it is the finders not using common sense.
If someone finds an ammo can in a stump but instead of rehiding it in the stump, they set it down on the ground, that’s not using common sense.
A cache hidden in someones front yard, if you search for it, you run the risk of someone reporting you for suspicious behavior. The only common sense thing to do for these caches are to filter them out and not bother looking for them.
Hardinfam, it sounds like you’re passionate about hiding caches, which is a good thing. Cache owners should be passionate about their hides. However, step back and try to understand where “the community” is coming from on this. The Fox Cities is a very cache friendly environment. City park, county park and state park managers, for the most part, welcome and encourage placing caches on their property. Same goes for most of the public land and cemetery’s around the valley. Take a look at the Zeroes to Heroes caches in the Bruce B. Purdy preserve to see a great example of how geocachers opened lines of dialogue and worked hand in hand with the landowners to introduce caches on their property.
This didn’t happen by accident. In the early days, many land managers assumed that “treasure hunting” meant that droves of geocachers were going be showing up with shovels and digging holes all over the property. They believed that caches were going to be buried. I’m sure some land managers still think that way. The cache hiders that have been in the sport for many years laid a lot of the groundwork that we’re all benefiting from today. That’s why all the parks and public spaces are available to have geocaches hidden in them. That doesn’t mean it can’t be taken away. If the police get enough calls about suspicious people poking around in front of someones house, that will get noticed by city officials and if they determine that the root cause is geocaching, they may just decide to drop the hammer and ban the activity altogether.
I know that sounds far fetched but there are places throughout the U.S. that has had this very thing happen. A few blackeyes and rather than deal with it, managers just banish the game. Hiding geocaches in National Parks was banned because of one buried geocache. It can happen and having a cache owner basically say “I don’t care, I’m still going to hide caches in front of peoples houses” is not good for the game.
@jseymour84 wrote:
Is there a way to petition for a cache’s archival? Once reviewers approve it there doesn’t seem to be anything that can be done to “de-list” a cache. I would really hate to see the scenario that CJ describes come to pass but if there are not a lot of quality geocaches being setup and maintained then the reviewers really do not have much of a choice but to publish these “inferior” caches.
The only options I can think of now are A) lobby the reviewers to remove the listing, B) lobby the reviewers to force the CO to modify the description to prove landowner permission, C) setup plenty of quality geocaches on DNR land, parks and other friendly locations so the reviewers have the option to reject lesser quality caches.
That’s not true. A reviewer could get two new cache submissions to review. One is the most incredible cache ever conceived, hidden in an awesome spot that few know about. The other is the lamest turkey you could imagine, hidden behind a smelly dumpster. If both meet the hiding guidelines, they’ll both be published. Quality (and safety) are not requirements for caches to be published and caches are not denied publication because they are deemed “uninteresting”.
The onus is not on the reviewer here…the onus is on us to ignore these caches.
Down in Madison, whenever I need to take Cnty Rt MM, my Nuvi tells me to turn on to County Route Millimeters.
The city of Shawano is pronounced Shaw No. Most people not familiar with how to pronounce it say Sha Wah No. My Nuvi somehow comes up with She Ann No.
@huffinpuffin2 wrote:
A recent review of logs, revealed one ‘No Comment’ entry, made with a little class:
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🙂 Found it May XX, 20XX by XXXXXX (XX found)No Comments
That’s how I log when I’m interviewed by a reporter about geocaching 😯
@huffinpuffin2 wrote:
@CodeJunkie wrote:
It appears GC.com has made the “comments” box smaller again with the latest site changes. This certainly doesn’t help with encouraging people to right logs. I used to use the box as a “gauge” to determine how I was doing. Now it takes nothing to fill it up.
You can drag to resize and enlarge the box using the ‘dots’ at the lower left corner. Very much like in the text box on this forum.
This is available in Firefox 4. Earlier versions did not have this feature…at least not the version I was running (3.6). I kept looking for the dots and could not find them!
If the weather is nice and the bugs leave me alone, I’ll write a paragraph or two if the cache is worth it. That includes caches with just micro logs…I just fill every line with my ramblings and then post a N/M for a full log 😈
@zuma wrote:
@Bassanio wrote:
That’s too bad. Many rest areas are equivalent to mini-parks in their upkeep and they make for good cache placements.
Perhaps it’s different in other areas of the state, but the rest areas around the Fox Valley area ARE very much like public parks. Restroom facilities and picnic tables…they are greenspaces designed to allow drivers a chance to relax and recharge from driving. I certainly don’t agree that geocaching or any of the “other” activities detract from a rest areas purpose.
Just to clarify, the DOT policy applies to state managed rest areas on the interstate highway system. Highway waysides on state and county roads are generally managed by the county highway department, and geocaches are generally allowed in waysides. (I know a wayside and a rest area seem like the same thing, but to the state they are not, they are managed by different groups.)
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Ahh, it looks like I was confusing the two. Thanks for the clarification, Ralph!
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