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I think the chances of offensive or disrespectful behavior (at one time or another) in a cemetery is very likely to happen for each and every cemetery cache that is in place.
The silver lining to this cloud is that often there is nobody around to witness this behavior.
In order to keep the witnesses to a minimum:
- Leave no “evidence”.
Don’t post any pictures showing headstones or graves.
Don’t post details in logs (log-book or on-line) about bad behavior. - Keep a low profile.
If there are people around, STAY AWAY.
“Look” more like a mourner than a geocacher when in the cemetery.
Don’t cut across graves, stick to the main roads / pathways as much as possible. - Place your cemetery caches wisely.
Find out who owns the cemetery and OBTAIN PERMISSION.
Choose an out-of-the-way place inside of the cemetery for your cache placement.
Find a good spot outside of the cemetery and place your cache there. Then, in the cache description, mention “An interesting old cemetery is located nearby at NXX YY.YYY WZZ AA.BBB. You should take the time to visit there and ahve a look.”
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Originally posted by Trudy & the beast:
Let’s pool our resources and buy a big yellow bus (40 passenger) and cache (v.t.) in a group. Does any one have a CDL?
…and we can park it in your front yard!
The “PDA” shown on the logo, looks alot like a Garmin E-map to me.
I own one, and for an older GPS, it works VERY WELL.
The HIDER of the cache determines the logging practices for that cache.
If you didn’t intend this to be multiple-logged, then I don’t see any reason why you should start now.
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Originally posted by AstroD-Team:
… I recently had a foot injury that kept me out of commission for a month and a half. There are certainly circumstances where 90 days may not be enough time to get the problem corrected.
I would envision a policy whereby the cache owner would be contacted in 90 days, and if there was a reason that the cache had to remain disabled (under water etc…), it would be no problem to leave it alone.
What the proposed system would be meant to weed out, is those caches that are abandoned.
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Originally posted by AstroD-Team:
…approvers really do not have extra time to be policing these issues …This is off topic but how many approvers are there? Also, if the approvers are having trouble keeping up with getting caches approved in a timely manner, why can’t you add another approver or two?
Often during the summer, it takes up to two hours a night to go through all of the submitted caches. The fortunate part about here in Wisconsin, is that we have two geocache reviewers, and we alternate weeks. Grousetales takes a week, then I take a week. This leaves us with our “off” week to resolve any pending issues that came up during our “on” week.
I am NOT proposing a system whereby when a cache hits 91 days that the owner immediately gets contacted. I’m thinking that, as time permits, a couple of 2 or 3 times a year, go through and perform the “house cleaning” task.
If anybody is interested in becoming a geocaching.com reviewer, my best advice is to get elected to the Board Of Directors for the WGA. Groundspeak has given the WGA-BOD 2 geocache reviewer positions.
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Originally posted by Trudy & the beast:
…return to the RASH, …
Huh? I don’t want to get any kind of a rash.
Seriously though, if you folks think we (as Wisconsin Geocchers) need some sort of a policy (or not)on long-disabled, keep the comments coming.
Personally I think archiving long-disabled caches is a good idea, and from the admin side, it would be handled with courtsey and with tact.
Many of the other reviewers for geocaching.com have a procedure for “cleaning house” regards to long disabled caches. They typically follow the steps below:
* If a cache sits disabled for more than a certain amount of time (say 90 days), then contact the cache owner via E-mail, asking them what’s up?
* If the owner responds, work with them to either fix up the cache or archive it.
* If the owner does not respond within a given amount of time (typically 2 weeks to 30 days), then the cache is archived along with a polite note posted to the page explaining the situation.Anybody interested in having the Wisconsin geocaching.com reviewers adopt such a system?
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Originally posted by Green Bay Paddlers:
… with monochrome graphics, 256 MB RAM and two low density 5 1/4″ disk drives…
I believe you ment 256 kB of RAM.
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Originally posted by shrek & fiona:
I sent jeremy an e mail last year when this came up
he said he dosnt mind if people log temp caches the way we have been doing it
so why do we have to decide if temps should be loged or not
You are correct. As far as I know, Jeremy Irish does NOT care how many times one team logs on particular geocache.
Why are we even considering this action? There has been a lot of chatter in the general message boards at geocaching.com slamming us about the practice of logging all the temp caches at events.
Also, the other geocaching.com reviewers generally hold the same opinion: One event, one log (no matter how many temps are there).
Instead of just going with the flow of the rest of the geocaching community (one event, one log), we are gathering opinions of our members, and will make an active decision. That way if we get slammed again (very likely), we can defend our practice by saying that it is what our members want.
I can tell you this, there are other geocaching.com players and non-Wisconsin geocaching reviewers that NOBODY will be able to convince that multiple logs on an event is acceptable.
My personal opinion is to allow multiple logs of temp caches. If it’s OK with Jeremy, it’s OK with me, after all it’s his game.
Prior to becoming a board member, I used to try and find and log every temp cache at an event. Yes, I saw a few people on the trails, and spent some time socializing. Since becoming a board member, I have had to “work” the events. This really limits the amount of time I have available to hunt the temp caches. Instead I wind up hanging around and chatting much more, and honestly, I find that to be more fun. I sincerely doubt that I will EVER find all of the caches at an event even after I am no longer part of the B.O.D.
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Originally posted by Green Bay Paddlers:
One question is this… Would it be prohibitively difficult to spread out the job of creating an actual cache page for each temp cache?If there were 50 caches placed, 5 WGA members could each create 10 cache pages. After the event is held the WGA could simply “archive” the caches?
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What about creating one multi-cache cache page encompassing all of the caches placed for that event? In other words – a 50-part multi-cache. People can log on and log each portion and then the WGA can archive the multi-cache page after the event is over?
Again – just ideas. This might quell the resistance by those that don’t care for the idea of multiple “Event cache” logs by team members. One find for each physical cache!
On the surface, it sounds like a good idea…. but…. the guidelines at geocaching prohibit temporary caches. (Visit Link)
Great Job guys!
Personally, I did not find anything in arcangl7’s posting that I would call RUDE. I might call it direct and to-the-point, but not rude.
I would suspect (and I’m just guessing here) that it might be hard meet up with the fellow temp-hiders if someone showed up unexpected. Even if there is a “home base” for hiders it is likely that there won’t be anybody there for most of the day. So anybody who wasn’t expected would just have to stand around and wait, not knowing times /FRS Channel / etc…
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Originally posted by kbraband:
Originally posted by Ootek:
I’ve been asked to give a presentation on geocaching at the Traditional Winter Camping Symposium this fall in Eau Claire. Would any of you who have given presentations be willing to share your syllabus and/or any ideas with me? Please feel free to send an email, if you prefer.Thanks!
http://wi-geocaching.com/info/WPRAGeocaching.ppt
I have a modified version of the above presentation that I have used twice now to introduce non-geocaching audiences to geocaching. I can send you the modified presentation if you send me your E-mail address. You can reach me at wga2-admin at wi-geocaching dot com.
In Duluth proper… “Down The Rabbit Hole” but be prepared to get wet.
- Leave no “evidence”.
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