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Sadly, I think that you’re right in the thought that our membership body likes to be recognized and/or stroked. There are so many of us who have donated so much time, energy, supplies, money in the past and have just been happy in the knowledge that we did it. It just seems silly to me that everyone can’t be like that. No matter the intention in starting the listing, to me, it’s a lot like you’re going to be adding a “donor” stats page to all the rest of the stats already listed here. It’s bad enough that everyone has to look at who’s running around grabbing caches all the time, now we have to look at who’s making donations too.
Over and over again in this sport we’ve heard one thing, and in May we saw it on a coin…we already believed it to be true, but have recently taken it on as our Team Motto: “The only numbers that matter are the number of friends you make!” The rest just doesn’t count!
I still think a simple “Thanks to all who have donated” is enough!
MB@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:
@CB&MB wrote:
Maybe you should follow your own advice and not look at the forums.
The forums are not bothering me, therefore I will still read them.
It is people with a lot of bent up frustration that cannot seem to get over a disagreement with another, that I do not spent much if any time on the GC.com forums.
WHAT?!!
@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:
@Gram&Gramps wrote:
Let’s not turn this into a geocaching.com forum!
Right on
@Team Hemisphere Dancer wrote:
If the stats bother you, Don’t look at them!!
Maybe you should follow your own advice and not look at the forums.
@One Paddle Short wrote:
Or, perhaps just remove all stats links from the WGA site completely? If it really isn’t about the numbers- take the numbers away.
Thank you! There have been a few of us saying that for so long! Finally someone else said it!
@Jeremy wrote:
– We really don’t need lots of money for any projects or equipment at the moment.
That’s because the BOD hasn’t taken any of the suggestins made by the WGA body into consideration. At least not publically. There are many ideas flying around the forums about where to spend money. The BOD just hasn’t implemented any of them. But then THEY are the ones who decide what to do, aren’t they?
@Jeremy wrote:
We will be introducing an online donation system on the WGA site soon (by the end of September for sure… trust me :roll:) that allows people to make voluntary donations to the WGA via PayPal or by sending in a check. This system is meant to supplement (or be a high tech replacement for) the ol’ ammo can donation box we have at events, not raise huge sums of money.
We do think it’s a good idea to have this system online, but please don’t stop taking the can to the events? Scenario: Someone goes to a WGA event but isn’t a WGA member, has a great time and wants to give a little cash to the association. The ammo box is missing from the table. Where are they going to drop their doantion? I seriously doubt that they will go home, get online, join the WGA and make a PayPal donation to the association.
@Jeremy wrote:
The donation system will include a list of donors to recognize folks that have given to the WGA in the past 12 months (maybe this is an acceptable substitute for recognizing donors instead of giving them a “premium membership”?)… the donor list will also include people who donate “gifts in kind” (goods and services… water, charcoal, etc.) to future WGA events.
I have HUGE issue with this!!! No one needs to know who is donating money. They only need to know that it’s being done! The ones dropping the cash, and/or sending the funds via electronic methods will know who they are! Those donating time, goods and /or services at events will know who they are. They shouldn’t need to be “stroked” individually in public. If the BOD wishes to thank them one by one instead of as has been done in the past (“Thanks to all who have helped with hide placement, set-up, tear-down,” etc.), it should send e-mails to those who have helped. In the past this has always been enough. Is the BOD going to cough up some cash to buy little envelopes to sit beside the ammo box so that each person dropping something in can write their name on it? Or should someone donate those too and get their name on the list of donors?
@Cheesehead Dave wrote:
@CB&MB wrote:
@Buy_The_Tie wrote:
Oh my! 😳
It is my understanding that any decisions made on behalf of the club ultimately *ARE* made by the Board Of Directors.
WOW! Sorry for thinking that the BOD was a democratic body! Sorry for being under the impression that even though we know the BOD has the final word, it would allow the lowly members who voted them in to offer opinions that “ultimately” matter to the entire “club”…
Sadly, I see more and more why people step away from the WGA as a whole.
Oh and while we’re all so impressed with “Dave’s design” of a logo (which I do like), I wonder if anyone else (besides the two of us) has noticed that there are a lot of political signs and billboards using his design for candidates in various races this year. Hmmmmm, Dave’s design or plagiarism?…I wonder!
Not that I’m discounting your opinions, but please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.
And for the record, that style of design is a fairly common one. I didn’t steal it from any political signs.
I “stole” it from the WSGA… 😉
Sorry Dave, didn’t mean to take attention away from you or your design…oh wait, you said you didn’t design it, that you “stole” it. Funny how you only mentioned where you got it from when I called you out on it! Until then, you were more than willing to let people think it was all yours.
If in fact the BOD does decide for themselves that they want a new logo. I hope the one they decide is best for ALL OF US is better than one copied from some other website. You know, a truly original design.
As for the new thread, NO! I won’t start another one…this is where people started talking about all of the “crap”…this is where I will continue to reply to it. If you want a new thread started, lock this one and start a new one yourself.
Talking about the logo and the design that you showed everyone is NOT derailing the topic. Asking me open a new thread providing my opinion is being chicken shi#. It’s hiding from why this has gone on so long…
@sweetlife wrote:
No matter how many times you find and drop the same travel bug, it only counts the first time, If groundspeak will only count a travel bug once, why not caches too.
Why not ask Groundspeak that question?
@sweetlife wrote:
I guess that is why we have never attended a event in Wisconsin, We are not smiley hounds.
Perhaps before you continue to judge those who have been logging the temps, you should go to an event and see for yourself what goes on. Perhaps you should take your GPSR with you and walk the miles of trails seeking hides along the way. Perhaps then you’d stop talking about things you’ve not experienced for yourself.
@sweetlife wrote:
I guess that we are proud to say that all of our finds are actual caches, If we find 50 in a day (which we have done) its a sun up to sun down day with lots of miles logged, not finding 50 in a couple of square miles in a state park.
That’s s lot of crap! Every cache one finds with the help of a GPSR is an actual cache! Come down from your soap box and take a look at the hides at an event. Many of them are better than a stupid micro on a post. Many are better than a tupperware container under a bush! Many are more unique and well hidden (sometimes in plain sight), than any we’ve found at the end of a 5 mile hike up a mountain. You haven’t seen them so stop talking about them!
Numbers have never been too important to us. We used to walk and log as many as possible at events. We thought if we found it with our GPSR’s, we should log it! The hides used to be fewer, and more unique. As time went on and the events grew, we found that there were too many times of walking up to someone else holding the logbook (stamp, whatever) and passing it around. For us it was a personal contest to see how many we could get in a day. The hides became too many, and in many cases, seemingly “numbers” oriented. They just weren’t as fun to seek any more. We decided for ourselves to stop logging them because of these reasons. We still walked the hides, we just began taking our time and socializing more. We never criticized others for continuing to log them though. We did walk the trails, we did find the hides, we did actively participate, and we did log them. And yet, we don’t judge the masses for not stopping the logs when we did.
@sweetlife wrote:
Granted you are seeing allot of nice areas in nice park, but I would rather visit the great areas all over our state, Geocaching has shown us things that we would have never seen without this great sport.
That’s awesome! Glad you’ve seen some great things around the state. Have you looked at where your fellow cachers have been? Have you seen whether or not they too have traveled the state, country, world in search of caches? Or have you assumed that the only logs they get are the ones the get from events? Our team has logged caches in some 17 states and traveled to 2 Mega events. One of those events had temp hides for people to log. They even created a “bogus” cache page for people to log the hides on. Only thing is, at the event someone decided that logging the hides would cause too much controversy and they didn’t want to deal with it. Not because of what it was so much, but because there was already so much happening about the “world record” hunt. We were told they didn’t want to deal with both things. So the end result was that they archived the “bogus” page and didn’t pass out the GC number like they planned.
@sweetlife wrote:
we received a private message from someone (we will withhold the name) who is currently going back thru their logs and removing all the multiple logs. KUDOS to you.
If that’s what they choose to be right for them, then that’s good for them. Others shouldn’t be criticized for leaving their logs in place.
@Buy_The_Tie wrote:
Oh my! 😳
It is my understanding that any decisions made on behalf of the club ultimately *ARE* made by the Board Of Directors.
WOW! Sorry for thinking that the BOD was a democratic body! Sorry for being under the impression that even though we know the BOD has the final word, it would allow the lowly members who voted them in to offer opinions that “ultimately” matter to the entire “club”…
Sadly, I see more and more why people step away from the WGA as a whole.
Oh and while we’re all so impressed with “Dave’s design” of a logo (which I do like), I wonder if anyone else (besides the two of us) has noticed that there are a lot of political signs and billboards using his design for candidates in various races this year. Hmmmmm, Dave’s design or plagiarism?…I wonder!
@kbraband wrote:
@CB&MB wrote:
It’s not bad, but before everyone goes too nuts, if the “board” is going to vote on changing the logo, I think TWO things should happen first.
1. They should realize that it’s not just their decision whether or not it should be changed. That decision belongs to the body of membership.
2. If there will be a new logo chosen, the ENTIRE membership should be allowed to design one. Then the designs should be opened up for a vote.
1. Actually, it IS their decision. They are our elected decision-making body.
2. I agree. But again, opening it up to to the entire member is also up to the board.SPOKEN LIKE A FORMER BOARD MEMBER (and “founder”)
I guess I missed the page in the bi-laws that said the BOD was the sole decision making group in the WGA. To include changing our logo.
Gee, silly me, I thought “they” were elected to plan “our” picnic and camp-out. And to buy a griddle that “we” aren’t allowed to use at “our” events unless “they” say so. And to tell “us” how much money “we” have sitting in “our” bank account, while asking “us” to give more so it can sit there as well. And to try to control all of Geocaching in the state of Wisconsin, while forgetting that without Groundspeak none of us would be here.
And then of course there’s the fact that the board didn’t want anything to do with creating the WI coin, until someone came along with enough vision and drive to push it through…it was almost like they figured out how much money they could add to the bank account and decided to jump in and take, at least partial, credit for their creation. Like the rest of us wouldn’t know where they initiated. And let’s not forget the “free” coins that were supposed to be handed out to people that the board deemed “worthy” of receiving them. (And didn’t they tell us to nominate people we thought should have one?…Have any of those nominated gotten one?)
And for goodness sakes, please don’t even think about suggesting parks for the next picnic and/or camp-out. Those suggestions should only be made and voted on by the BOD…or did they vote to allow the rest of us a vote in those choices?
Am I a bit bitter? Yes, I guess I am. I’m tired of people trying to tell me that the WGA BOD is the only voice worth hearing in the state. Hey, I know, while we’re at it, why not stop allowing the body to vote on COTM and just have the board pick it. And why not lock the “reply” link in the forums to everyone except the board? That way we can all be as brainwashed as…well, nevermind.
FOR THE RECORD: It’s not the entire BOD that I’m upset with. Some are doing good things. It’s the ones who sit in their bubbles thinking their poop (Am I allowed to say “poop” here or should I say “dung?”) doesn’t stink that tick me off so bad!
It’s not bad, but before everyone goes too nuts, if the “board” is going to vote on changing the logo, I think TWO things should happen first.
1. They should realize that it’s not just their decision whether or not it should be changed. That decision belongs to the body of membership.
2. If there will be a new logo chosen, the ENTIRE membership should be allowed to design one. Then the designs should be opened up for a vote.
(I didn’t see where the WGA BOD actually said they were interested in changing the logo at this time. I do think though, that if there were enough interest in doing so that they would have to take it under consideration… After all…aren’t they here to do what’s best for the members of the association? If the association wants it, then… Also, if there is enough interest…someone…anyone just needs to make a call for new designs and we need to move on it ourselves. )
@jpvieau wrote:
Hi, just bought a used Garmin 72 and would like someone with experience in this model for some one-on-one hands on instruction. Happy to pay for your time. Thanks
[email protected]Just wanted to point out what jpvieau is asking for since it seems to have been lost here!
They are asking for ONE ON ONE help with a GARMIN 72.Log it! Would you NOT log the hide if you’d have done all parts, then walked upon the final as some other cacher was signing the log? So you didn’t find it with the numbers…you found it, log it! (Then laugh at the knowledge that so many others are struggling with the find…hee! hee!) 😉
hmmmmm…pyramiding for the chocolate fan. I bit…I like chocolate…not sure I’d do it again. Now they have my e-mail addy. Blah!
MB
Hey Bec…why not contact your local Gander and see is they might be aboe to donate a couple of them to the school. And then, contact my local Gander for the same thing. There’s always Best Buy in Janesville…you know…worth a try, eh?!
Sadly, this is not a new issue. We’ve done some fabulous caches which had photos posted showing a bit “too much” in them. We’ve also hidden caches having the same problem.
We like to look at photos on cache pages so that we can see who’s doing the caches. A lot of times we don’t know the names of those who have gone before us. If they post photos we look to see if we recognize them. We don’t look at the photos for hints or clues or give-aways, as has been suggested by another poster here.
We too have been known to send the gentle mailing to the cache seeker asking them to remove or edit their photos. We’ve never had anyone argue about what we’ve asked. Like someone else said, they were usually just excited about finding the hide and didn’t think about it. We’ve also had to ask that hide details be removed from cache logs.
Send the mail Dave!
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