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by the way, if you are having issues with a propane water heater on a camper, everyone always says “remove the spider webs and other bugs” from the narrow elbow fitting thing. Apparently it’s one of those well-known do-it-yourself fixes. We brought it in to have the dealer do it 🙂
oh wait, they’re as clear as our current GC.com guidelines… I get it now.
I guess we go by the guidelines
Again, their “guidelines” don’t state that Geology (or the study of) is required as part of the educational value. See guideline #1 on earthcache.org
I might be nit-picking but if they are posting based on this simple guideline than why waste their own time sifting through all the requests like the one that started this thread? (I am sure they get many if there’s a thread here asking..) It seems fixing the guidelines to note Geology as the only Earth science eligible for educational value for an Earthcache to be published would be a great improvement but that’s just me.
If the camper’s a rockin…
This response is both educational and funnier than heck.
There’s an “environmental” Earthcache in Appleton by the way… must be “grandfathered” in.
Eric,
Our requirement is that the primary focus of an EarthCache be earth science. At present, this includes geological topics, but not environmental, ecological, biological, botanical, historical, cultural, etc.Then they should change their Guildelines to state this as well and further call it a Geology-Cache instead.
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This question actual strikes a chord with one of my “beefs” on Earthcaches…
From Earthcache(dot)org:
“An EarthCache site is a special place that people can visit to learn about a unique geoscience feature or aspect of our Earth. “Further – The first Guideline:
“EarthCache sites must provide Earth science lessons.”From Wikipedia(dot)org – Earth science (also known as geoscience, the geosciences or the Earth Sciences), is an all-embracing term for the sciences related to the planet Earth.
Further…
There are four major disciplines in earth sciences, namely geography, geology, geophysics and geodesy. The major disciplines use physics, chemistry, biology, chronology and mathematics to build a quantitative understanding of the principal areas or spheres of the Earth system.Earth science generally recognizes 4 spheres, the lithosphere, the hydrosphere, the atmosphere, and the biosphere. These correspond to rocks, water, air, and life.
A very important linking sphere is the biosphere, the study of which is biology.
When you look at all these Earthcaches and the process for posting them, they are all about Geology (for the most part). Why just Geology?
Personally I think your proposal would make an excellent addition as an Earthcache and should not even be questioned as to it’s “worth” but because the current “Earthcache” Idea is about Geology-only it probably is not an acceptable topic. (Just my guess in this case as I am not an Earthcache owner or seeker).
Wouldn’t it be great to explore biology, chemistry, meterology… to explore the atmosphere, water, life etc through Earthcaches as well?
I am sure many of these geological formations are stunning but I think by limiting the highlighted sites, sounds, and experiences to just geological topics is missing the true potential of exploring our Earth Sciences.
I say go ahead with your idea and if it’s questioned, come back with some of the information above regarding the fact that it meets the Guidelines of an Earth Science lesson.
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The best part of the log is this little classic line:
the worst experience of my adult life
I am sure this is exactly what Dave had intended when he placed this cache 🙂
He’s probably out there right now trying to determine what went wrong for this cacher and how to potentially correct the situation.
This is a fun cache to read about but I am positive it will stay in the same category for me for a long long time (Not Found Caches).
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I would probably ask a cacher to delete their own log before I would go deleting it for them. Common courtesy I guess.
I think the best part of finding a cache first is that it is EXACTLY as the owner intended at that point. We all know caches have a tendency to “change” over time.
Another positive to hunting new one’s is the chance of running into or meeting new cachers is greater. Often if becomes a joint FTF hunt and on the really tough one’s this can be a blessing.
On the negative side, many cachers end up looking for caches in “less than desirable conditions” just to grab that FTF. I.e. visiting a scenic area in the middle of the night, logging the cache in a downpour, etc.
The other negatives I can think of were mentioned by labrat
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The camper I bought has a rating on the king bed of holding 1000 pounds and we have not had issues and I am over 300 pounds. Would be worth seeing if there is an advertised rating from the manufacturer or dealer.
On a related note, is there anyone out there with a popup or other camper that has a propane hot water heater and knows anything about maintaining them??? We are having a problem with ours. It seems the flame is coming out the air intake which we were told by a neighboring camper at our last stay is bad and can start our camper on fire. Not trying to steal your thread so if anyone has any info or could help, please PM me.
Thanks,
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usually not long enough because I always miss them…
I’ve never replaced someone else’s cache container…
Okay maybe there was this once where I went to a bogus puzzle coordinates site and alex made me do it…
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I’ve played a few alternate reality games in my day
Sounds like geocaching…
Did you read my comments about it being not original?
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