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There’s a smart car zooming around the Appleton area. Saw it parked the other day.
Travel bugs and geocoins are meant to be moved and to follow the owner of the “trackable’s” wishes not the wishes of the owner of the cache they are in.
Geocachers will always place these items in “hotels” and “retreats” and whatever but you cannot always expect 1:1 trades. These caches are also “magnets” for cachers looking to move a geocoin or find their FIRST travel bug.
In fact, expecting 1:1 trades on these items causes them to NOT meet their goals.
I own an assortment of Geocoins and Travelbugs. It’s pretty much a waste to turn them loose because no one moves them around all that much and they stay in the hands of people for eons. I find it much more interesting when they move around. Having one stuck in a Travel Bug “trap” that expects 1:1 trades is not my intention when I place them out into “the wild” but there are many caches and owners with your perspective that cause these items to stay sitting in these caches.
You chose to create a TB/GC “hotel” type cache. If you want to maintain a certain level of items in your cache for Geocachers to discover and/or move around it will pretty much be up to you to keep it filled with these items at your expected level. If you aren’t willing to do this, I would say don’t be disappointed by Geocachers who are doing what they are supposed to with items that are meant to be moved around.
This has been my opinion since the first time I saw a cache like this but I have not shared this opinion before.
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[/b]05/13/2008 at 6:47 pm in reply to: Discussion of not logging temps, starting with this event #1888687you only have 26 finds, so what do you know?!?!?
just kidding… I have more than 26 finds and I still dont know anything…
very nice response to all this.
Well, I think the “found” got changed to “attended” because it seemed rather stupid to say you “found” and event.
Actually it has been discussed that if you are from out of town you may just not be able to “find” an event 😳
Like the story of the cacher who went to the wrong coffee shop as there were many in the area…
Attended makes much more sense but in some cases it may be hard to “find” these event locations. What saved me on one was having the coordinates because the street maps and navigation were wrong. It said turn right and it was actually a left turn through a round-a-bout. I followed the coordinates instead. 😀
Maybe you bent a dogwood branch,
Or did a deer, bear, the wind bend that branch?
stepped on an ant,
One could argue, the ant is going to die soon anyway? (not trying to offend anyone here…)
or needed to use the port-a-tree
watering the tree to help it grow?
I don’t “buy” any argument that geocaching is harming our natural areas. They’re all public places where people are allowed to go and the people that are not geocaching are harming those areas and rates thousands of times worse than geocachers are.
Take for instance, when I was up in Door county. Deep in a county park, my wife and I were walking on a trail that had been there for a long long time. The cache was a popular multi, and most points were mere feet from the trail. As we walked between points, up above on the rock face a large bag full of glass bottles came a tumbling (actually crashing) down. Someone had emptied their truck or whatever of all their beer bottles into the county park!
Not only did they litter, but that large bag took out much more vegetation and such than any cacher there would. AND they almost took out a couple of geocachers! My wife and I yelled up to them but we were a good 50 feet down and could never get back up there in time to do anything about it…
I just don’t buy this argument at all. Leaving “geo-trails” is not the end of the world. There are well-established “people” (and animal) trails all over our parks. Whether those trails lead the way to water, shelter, the road, a geocache, whatever… is having those trails hurting anything?
One tornado (an act of nature, god, whatever you beleive) does trillions more in damage to nature itself than geocachers will ever do and it’s over in a blink of an eye.
I can keep going…
I don’t buy it.
My bet would be on a typo or mis-read of the ID on the bug/coin…
congrats on the milestone!!!! keep on having fun out there.
thanks for all the great info! Looking forward to the event.
The reality is that PQs are not useful for this sort of thing.
It seems PQ’s are limited. How does that get fixed? Perhaps request what things you’d like to see improved on the GC.com forums and maybe they might agree and implement some of your ideas….
I always love it when computer system users complain about how the system doesnt do this or that or the other and then probably never take the time to request an enhancement via provided means.
If you are a paying subscriber and would like to see something get better, voice it on the Geocaching website forum thread. I for one want to see continued enhancements for the money I pay to support the site.
The PQ seems to be an area that could use lots of enhancing, mainly because the PQ seems to be the answer to many “can I do this” type questions about the site because they don’t offer the functionality elsewhere. It’s also an area that customers actually PAY to use.
Can you tell I work in software development for a living?
05/09/2008 at 11:10 pm in reply to: Backpacker Mag: Does geocaching violate Leave No Trace? #1889057That said, there is no reason to tear up a location looking for a cache, but there is also no reason to place a cache that would tempt someone less ethical to do just that. In the end, it is up to the hider to select locations which can support the level of searching they will require.
So what you are saying is we should stick to magnetic keyholders stuck to light poles rather than micros in our parks that are hidden on or around trees?
Geocachers who harm trees, plants, shrubs, etc for the sake of making a find should be ashamed of themselves. Period. Let’s put blame where blame is due. I can place a cache in a tree and have 100 cachers log it with no problems. Should I not place it there because there are a few bozos out there who ruin it for the rest of us?
Yes responsible cache owners should monitor the impact their hide has on the surroundings and think of the potential impact but at the end of the day you can’t predict just how idiotic some people will be. People are people.
Having fun with your family is an excellent way to celebrate a caching milestone. Congrats!
sorry, dont own a bike and live too far from work and i just had surgery that prevents me from participating.
oh well. will take my gas guzzling suv with just myself in it to work instead.
please offset my bad ways…
yeah but you have that road-side mini-golf place with the little country store….
“Walgreens #41” and “Starbucks #9,”
What’s great about adding those to your to-do caching list is that you can pick up that Grande Non-fat, No-Whip, Stirred White Moca and your prescriptions at the same time!
I wonder if they used actual store numbers or had their own numbering system…. Kinda like WSQ blahblah 401.
The real challenge would be the following:
– Find a walgreens that’s NOT on a street corner
– Find a street corner in Milwaukee, WI that does NOT have a Walgreens
– Find a city that does NOT have a starbucks, or 2, or 3, or 25 (though I recently read this is changing…)Congrats to both of you two! I am glad I bowed out during April as I would not have kept pace with you guys.
If you need someone to take that WI coin off your hands you can always give it to me. It’s a fine coin (Geo or otherwise!) and I never bought one but when I finally got to see one in person at my CITO.
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