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@gotta run wrote:

Don’t tell me how to play the game! There are 20,000 other caches to look for in the state if you don’t like these caches!

(Whoops, sorry, wrong thread!)

Isn’t that the universal reply to ALL threads??

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It was mentioned somewhere that this was put in so folks could actually use their facebook username and password to login to geocaching.com.

Many apps and sites have gone to this “facebook connect” sort of as a way to provide a single authentication point rather than multiples since so many people use facebook. “click here to login via facebook!”

I’ve had my account linked with facebook for awhile. Theyv’e had the ability to post logs to facebook for awhile. It was added around the time that you used to be able to “like” a cache but then that functionality was removed I beleive.

I don’t push my logs to facebook. I do push them to twitter though.. not that I have that many followers… nor that many logs to write!

One interesting tidbit about this site update in general. The release notes used to go into the mundane details of bug fixes. Either they didn’t have bugs to fix this go around or they’re no longer fully disclosing their updates.

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I know the intent of the thread was not to debate PMO caches but one negative is most land managers and officials do not know of them because they aren’t going to go out of their way to spend the money.

We hope cache owners get permission thus alleviating some of this concern but is permission sought on all placements?

I can tell you that I had a cache confiscated that was placed with permission and the main reason it was removed was because it was PMO and the geocacher consulted at the time was not a premium member. “nope i don’t think there’s a cache there…”. Course that would go for puzzles and multi’s too..

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@gotta run wrote:

As many actions over time have shown, the fact that someone is a premium member does not mean they will treat another cache or cacher with any more respect.

About the only advantage I can see to having a PMO cache is to keep the traffic down.

YMMV.

I was just making that same point on Saturday to a few cachers. As a cache owner you must come to terms with the fact that no one will act as you want or expect. If you can’t or won’t do that, you won’t enjoy being a geocache owner.

They won’t hide it as it was, they won’t trade fairly, they will post spoilers, they will find puzzles they haven’t solved, they will log TFTC, they wont read the page, they wont park where you say to park, and they will log premium only caches on non premium accounts.

It does limit traffic but is that not the opposite goal of placing a cache? If you must limit traffic, then maybe it’s not the greatest cache hide spot or idea.

And thanks for the pointers, I always wondered how this was done but was too lazy to search it out.

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BUMP Again!

This Saturday (4/21)

GC3E89H – Join the Belle City Coffee Clutch in Racine, WI for the 2nd annual Belle City CITO event. Trash Cleanup is from 8am – 10am.

GC3DNBC – Help out the WGA cleanup many city parks in Appleton, WI at the 6th annual Appleton CITO event and stick around for a potluck lunch. Event runs from 9am – 2pm.

This Sunday (4/22)

GC3FFNN – Celebrate Earth Day with Zima in Stevens Point, WI. GEOPUPS are encouraged to come along to this event!!

GC3DMHK – Join LilyRidgeFam for a Social Event in Eau Claire, WI. Potluck starts at 11am.

This weekend is shaping up to be a busy geocaching event weekend. Hope you all get out and hit the trails. If you cannot get to one of the CITO events, why not pickup some trash wherever you are this weekend! There’s no rule that says you have to attend a CITO event to help out with the CITO effort.

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What I am thinking of is this: show the final coin design here, take orders here based on that, charge postage, send out all of those orders when the coins are ready (this is where I have offered my services), and sell extras at all future WGA events until they run out.

Nevermind

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@sandlanders wrote:

In 2011, the round copper coin was offered online, but there was no postage charged, nor was mailing out the coins an option. All coins needed to be picked up at the fall picnic in person or by a representative for personal delivery.
Perhaps I am nitpicking about what exactly constitutes an online sale..

Online sale = sell online and ship to the purchaser. That’s what I thought you meant as well. Since that was not done last year, yes it has been awhile.

I agree that it would be nice for WGA members to get first “dibs” at buying the coins the group produces.

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I stand by my comments and understand your criticism and opinion.

This is one example of why I’m not interested in making these types of calls anymore.

There’s also a donation button somewhere on here to show your support from where you are sitting right now.

And you missed my comment on networking.

I’ll let the current board navigate these waters once again. Can’t always please everyone. History tells us you’ll have an online sale and then you’ll get complaints that someone didn’t know the sale was going on. More unequal opportunity right?

Some great design submissions this year!! That coin committee sure has its work cut out for them!

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Just a nit pick. Offering for sale at events is an “equal opportunity to purchase”. One chooses whether to go to an event. An unequal opportunity would be only selling to certain groups or members. If you wanted a coin you knew where to get one. They’ve never sold out in a single event either.

Opportunity is equal. Ease of obtaining is not.

One could look at it as an incentive to attend a WGA event. One could look at it as a way of making them more desirable. (especially to the coiner world) One could look at it as fostering networking.

I guess what I’m saying is its a nice offering to sell online but there are many things involved in a decision. Cost and labor are also at play. As well as the non profit status of the group.

I trust that the board will make the best decision given all the variables.

I think a more important argument for an online sale is that’s it’s been awhile since one has been done and it helps advertise the group.

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@G*Force wrote:

Thanks to all who have contributed/responded so far. I guess I have to buy about a dozen shiny new GPS units. It’ll cost me a geo-fortune. Just kidding. It’s all informative and helpful.

Here’s something else I learned in my conversation with the Garmin rep. I asked what is the importance of using NiMH or Lithium AA batteries when they are recommended. He said that they provide full power to the unit until the batts die – then nothing. Alkaline AA batteries, by contrast, begin losing their power from moment one, so their performance declines while in the unit until they die.

I always use Lithium batteries in my Oregon. Always have. Was really sick of the alkaline and rechargeables dying all the time. May cost more but well worth the peace of mind. But I keep a spare set of alkalines for that emergency situation.

The garmin vista HCX I have could get signals in crazy places (inside the town hall building in west bend for instance). To be honest, it was much better at locating and taking coordinates than the Oregon. But I love the features of the Oregon and really don’t care if I wander from time to time. As for deep woods cover, I’ve always wandered and tend to agree with the puffins..

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BUMP!

This Saturday (4/14)

GC3DN3M – Join other WGA members to help cleanup the WGA’s stretch of adopted highway 10 just East of Brillion in NE Wisconsin. Cleanup will run from 10a – 12p.

GC3E6QH – After the CITO, head West to Menasha, WI for CQD: A Titanic Event at Nauts Landing Restaraunt from 12:30p – 230p. Men, women, and children lost their lives, so all ages are invited to attend this 2 hour Event.

This Sunday (4/14)

GC3EJ25 – Join AuntieNae and Doctor Dolittle for Geocaching Continuing Education at the Greenfield Community Center in Greenfield, WI in SE Wisconsin. Event runs from 9a – 4p and covers a lot of topics!

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I would say they are equal not more. Accidents are accidents whether they are on a roadside or on a cliff or tree.

Whi;e I’m not saying stop sign caching is my favorite, I would rather watch out for traffic then fall off a cliff or out of a real tall tree.

That same “texting kid” could hit you head on while you are driving to your next cache location (whether that’s a state park or a stop sign).

Either way, risk is risk. If you want to be safest, stay home and watch TV or play games on your phone.

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I don’t know what the “survivor game” even is but as soon as you have competition you will see the best and worst of those who compete.

I’m content thinking of geocaching as a hobby and something to enjoy and pass time.

Life is too short to worry over this stuff.

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@Walkingadventure wrote:

If it’s a game, who is keeping count? Did I win?

Yes you did!

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Groundspeak volunteer reviewers don’t “rule” on the safety or risk of a cache placement. There are many caches placed that a person could get injured or killed while hunting.

You don’t have to hunt for a cache.

I drive by many I don’t care to find daily.

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