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@Team Deejay wrote:
Apparently it has always been that way. They tell me it is intentional. If I had a dollar for every time a developer told me that….Sigh….
Well than maybe we should request that it be ‘intentionally’ changed to not do this 😉
This discloses certain information about unpublished caches that a cache owner may not want made public.
Should I post a request on the website forum? Something like this is probably not likely to get picked apart as much as other requests that go out there. But maybe if I post it someone will speak up about why in the world this would be desired functionality the way it is!
Barry — thanks for submitting your idea. We have added discussing this to our board meeting agenda.
@gotta run wrote:
What is the point (seriously) of this endeavor? I see some Cache a Day challenges in Minnesota… 😕
To get someone to cache in the crazy weather months like winter that don’t normally do so?
It’s a bit like my places challenge or the delorme in that regard, only instead of going somewhere new you get your butt out of the house at a time you wouldn’t normally do so. 😉
And probably because the prolific challenge cache owners like to make a challenge out of anything tangible now that ALR’s are gone.
Actually, using firefox I can click on the image and see it full size. The link below the image does fail with the unpublished listing message.
Come to think of it, I’ve actually seen this before but didn’t notice I was looking at unpublished listing images. It was on Wis Kid’s user account 😈
I would say this should be requested to be fixed. If this isn’t a “bug” I don’t know what is!
It says: “Do you see this????”
Eww… looks like you shouldn’t post pics with your reviewer notes when prepping a cache for publish.
@Team Black-Cat wrote:
I’ve just been changing the dates on my past logs.
Are we not supposed to do that?By any means possible right?
A cache is meant to be found.
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@Johnny Cache wrote:
I see 16 images in your gallery dated between 2/6/07 and 1/20/09. I cannot view the 1/20/09 image. It says:
Attention!You cannot see logs for unpublished listings.
I wonder if he is seeing it because it’s him but other users can’t. It sounds like there is no “loop hole” here which is a good thing 😀
I found a really neat blogging site that I thought I would share. Actually, I saw Jeremy Irish (president of Groundspeak) uses this site and researched it further and it makes blogging extremely easy to do.
It’s http://posterous.com
What makes it cool?
– You can post messages by just sending an email
– Attached images are hosted and posted with your message. Same goes for videos, sound files, word docs, PDF’s, etc. Just attach the files to your posted email.
– Posts are automatically re-posted to facebook, twitter, other blog sites, etc.
– Your blog can be password protected allowing you to share secured posting and files with others.
– It’s freeHere’s a great summary page:
http://posterous.com/faqOh and I may occasionally post to my newly created blog page there:
http://cheeto.posterous.com/One other strange happening for me in a cemetery… (yeah I find strange things in other places but keeping this one 100% on topic 😉 )
Toyota Ryan (er RJ Macdougal) and I hunted for a rural cemetery cache together while marc waited in the vehicle. He had found this particular cache before.
Ground was snow covered. Our foot prints were the only foot prints into the cemetery from the highway. None into the cemetery from anywhere else.
There were fresh foot prints from one of the groupings of stones down to where “ground zero” was. They weren’t ours. We were pretty both sure of that.
Where they came from or how they left the cemetery was beyond me.
Not making this up.
At least there were no animal parts in the tree we searched. (No cache either)
I was very reluctant to place any caches, as an owner, in a cemetery. I personally own one now but waited a long, long time before placing one. And the one I placed was a replacement for one marc archived. I probably won’t place anymore. The reasons I waited are many. The reasons I probably won’t place anymore are many.
Turns out I enjoy visiting rural cemetery caches. Cemeteries out in the country that don’t see many visitors otherwise. They are very interesting places to visit. I am a local history nut and this probably has something to do with why it’s interesting for me. Also, you see things you would never see anywhere else.
I am not as much of a fan of urban cemetery caches. Cemeteries like Highland Memorial in Appleton that have many many visitors each day. I feel out of place hunting caches in these locations when others are there grieving and I am not. So much so that when I have done caches here, I have also visited my loved one’s to sort of “legitimize” my presence.
The other thing I’ve always wondered about is, how many cemetery caches actually are placed with land manager/owner permission? It sounds like a gray area and I’ve talked with marc on the subject before but it’s always intrigued me. I would think it would be an up-hill battle to convince cemetery land managers to play “games” there.
The other thing I think is that like anything else in this game, quantity is not always a good thing. Quality is what we should strive for with these types of placements. i.e. just because a cemetery is there doesn’t necessarily mean it “needs” a geocache. Is this particular cemetery a place that others would enjoy visiting? Is there something intriguing? Something unique?
I visited a virtual cache that brought me to Al Capone’s grave site as the final destination. It’s in the Chicago area and on the WGA recommended bookmark list if you’re interested. This cemetery is an absolutely amazing place. My visit was the highlight of the business trip. There was so much history. Ten’s of thousands of headstones. There were crypts larger than my house. 25 ft tall cross headstones. Without geocaching I would have never even thought to visit this type of place. With geocaching I actually learned quite a bit about the area and it’s history through researching some of the names resting there and some of the names featured in the virtual cache itself (it’s a multi). Now that’s a place for a geocache.
Yes there are plenty of parks to put caches in. But some life experiences aren’t possible in a park.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
You only have to include the use of a GPS to find the cache. There is no rule that says the puzzle has to result in coordinates. Put 2 and 2 together and you get some of the creativity out there that marc is hinting at.
OR
there are alternative solves, one that ends in coordinates, and another that might not. Just because you solved a puzzle a certain way does not mean that the creator did not build it to have multiple solutions. Interesting thing to ponder.
Nowadays all caches must incorporate the use of a GPS, but I don’t think the earlier puzzle caches all necessarily followed this rule. I can site a better example than marc did but I don’t want to post spoilers.
For what it’s worth both examples marc posts actually require a GPS to find the cache. They are also puzzles. If I tell someone the technique of solving the puzzle, it’s still the same thing as handing someone coordinates regardless of what information you gain from solving the puzzle!
Did I confuse anyone? That’s why they are called puzzles 😉
@BakRdz wrote:
but now I have to worry about having a hex placed on me when geocaching! 😯
That’s what I wondered myself. What if someone is seeing geocachers visiting the cemetery and performing their voodoo magic to get rid of you.
Get out of my cemetery you!
I still think they’re feeding the crows.
I’ve heard from newbies where they are criticized or told point blank how they should play the game.
In all fairness, they are told how they should play one way or the other, not just the way you are implying. I hear a certain veteran telling newbies it’s okay to find a cache by any means necessary. That’s not really right either.
If you are in a situation where you are teaching new geocachers about the game (specifically about Puzzle caches), please represent the differing opinions of the game’s community of players (and cache owners) and do so with respect and neutrality. That’s the best way to let them make up their mind on this topic which certainly divides the community based on the responses and poll results thus far.
Congrats!! Woo hoo!!
One clarification on my opinion of the topic. I think that caching teams (couples, families, friends) that cache under the same name are a bit different than multiple teams getting together for “puzzle tours”.
Teams/families should not be discouraged from doing puzzles. Should everyone understand the puzzle, yes. Do they all need to solve it themselves? well that’s just picking nits. I don’t think anyone is being that critical. Even the die hard “must solve it yourself” crew shouldn’t expect that all the time because it just won’t happen that way.
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