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Well if rsplash and frizz come, I definitely have to make it.

On a separate note:
Now we all know who/what roosevelt is.. been wondering…

We (my son and I) often improvise with large sticks on many cache hunts. I’ve never kept one or named it but we have had many occasions that required the use of these primitive “tools”.

Best one was testing depth (and keeping balance) in the fox river as my son and I hiked to a puzzle cache final in the river. I use the term hike loosely. Who needs a yak? 😉

I might pick one up though. I’m pretty tall so we’ll see how those extensions work. 😀

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Our recent logs app is the best thing since sliced bread. I use it to read logs on my own caches even as I am away from my home email a lot.

And I love to stalk CodeJunkie all the time 😉

Thanks for looking into it Jeremy.

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I think I am in. I will post a note Saturday morning confirming that I am leaving to join you all or not.

I saw Jim’s note about poles. Think I should pick up some of those lightweight trekking poles? I’ve seen pictures of folks using these during these winter hikes. Do they seem to help or are they more of a burden? Saw some on sale somewhere and my son has been eyeing them up anyway. I know they would help in the summer as well.

I need to pick up another pair of gloves anyway…

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Yeah so moving a difficulty or terrain down in the winter means nothing to those who did it because when the owner moves it back up again in the summer it shows that they completed it at the current difficulty/terrain. It’s silly really. Unless the difficulty of the hide has changed or nature/man has modified the terrain significantly, they should be left alone once the owner is “satisfied” with the ratings.

It’s interesting that an older “legacy cache” like this one would get changed all of a sudden. Maybe the owner has been changing it in the seasons like this all along?

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@redwingrr wrote:

On 2nd thought – maybe that was my own error? I still have that same question though. Can a cache owner change the ratings after a cache has been published?

Yep – they can change the difficulty and terrain post-publish. Causes issues with all those “fizzy challenge” ALR’s out there that require certain difficulty/terrain caches.

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Addl waypoint tables are Ug-ly

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@HeliDood wrote:

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I was in no way implying that your post was a hint to the cache in question. (I did get the joke..) I was more or less letting heliodood know that hints will happen. It’s much more fun when they happen on the cache page or in the picture gallery of the cache page.

At least on a cache page the CO can ask a person to edit their logs, or encrypt said log. In the worst case scenario, and as a last resort, a CO reserves the right to delete a log.

There is recourse on our forums as well. We do have moderators if there is a specific concern to be addressed.

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@Team Black-Cat wrote:

Oh come on!
It wasn’t my intention to post a hint or give away the surprise. It was a joke. The joke being, for those who might not have gotten it, is that it’s in a cemetary in Wisconsin, so there is a 90% probability that it is in a cedar tree.

I was in no way implying that your post was a hint to the cache in question. (I did get the joke..) I was more or less letting heliodood know that hints will happen. It’s much more fun when they happen on the cache page or in the picture gallery of the cache page.

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… and if marc hid it, there’s a 100% chance that it’s a bison tube with camoed tape and it’s hung using some metal wire in that cedar tree.

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@HeliDood wrote:

Disabled listing. Glad the 2 days spent creating a cache didnt go to waste. 🙁

I’ll go out there tomorrow and remove the cache container.

Why would you archive a listing because a hint was posted to forums unassociated with your cache page?

Do you believe that a high percentage of your intended caching “audience” for that cache even read these forums? Don’t think so.

While it is considered bad form to post hints to caches anywhere online it’s not the end of the world.

If you think this is bad, wait until new (or even veteran) cachers post hints directly to your caches. As a cache owner you will need to be prepared for this situation and how to handle it politely. I guarantee you it will happen.

I would not worry about a post on these forums at all. Like I said, most won’t even know this forum thread exists…

There is a rule about cache permanence. If you publish a cache, you intend to keep it going. Rather than archive it why not just leave it active and see what the first few logs look like??

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I would say the update may have also broken our site’s “Recent Logs” functionality. May be too early to tell but I don’t think that function was processing new logs from the page it is directed at when the new updated site was up later this afternoon.

Considering this site update modified many aspects of how the page looks, perhaps this recent logs process could be impacted?

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@HeliDood wrote:

@Team Rusch wrote:

However, if it is decided that a profit should be made on this merchandise a new store will need to be started.

Thats what I’m saying. An account should be made by WGA, and items SHOULD be for profit, with profits benefiting WGA.

Which is something the Board of Directors should perhaps discuss at their next meeting if time permits. Ultimately they would be best to discuss continuing this and whether it is appropriate for the group to turn a profit and so forth.

On a side note…

While you may think the prior logo is dated, please post with respect. The member who created it is probably still reading these posts. Yeah they might have thrown something together in a few minutes but it was our group’s logo for (many) years. We don’t need to cut down our past.

Thanks!

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improveded

I think I like that new word 😀

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@jerrys dad wrote:

This is the first time I tried to go out and got that message. I for one will give them a Tuesday so I can still cache on Saturday!

This is quite often exactly why Groundspeak does their maintenance on Tuesdays/Wednesdays. So that any changes they make to the software/hardware will not impact the weekends.

I would guess it’s a planned site update.

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Thanks for the question Lostby7

For those that may not know the history, the WGA as a group voted on a referendum regarding this topic. The BOD sought member input on this decision. This topic spawned several forum threads spanning many pages. In the end, all members voted as follows:

Should geocachers be allowed to make multiple “Attended” logs on geocaching.com to record temporary cache finds at WGA events?

40 (32%) – Yes. The WGA should continue to allow multiple logs for temp cache finds.

83 (67%) – No. The WGA should no longer allow multiple logs for temp cache finds.

1 (1%) – No vote

If the WGA no longer allowed multiple logs, would you still attend WGA events?

105 (85%) – Yes. I would attend regardless of whether multiple logs are allowed or not.

13 (10%) – No. It’s very important to me to be able to log the temp caches. If I can’t log them, I won’t attend.

6 (5%) – No vote.

I don’t believe I’ve ever really spoken up much on this topic. I will repeat what I have mentioned in the past and elaborate just a bit.

Geocaching.com has not (and probably will not) prevent this systematically. They leave the system open for all to play the game as they see fit. So it’s up to the cache owner (for all cache types) to decide whether they will allow multiple found it (or attended) logs. For WGA events, the “cache owner” is the WGA. All of us! As a group we all decided in this referendum vote how the group should handle the online logging of the Event. I stand by that group decision.

I think the temp caches at WGA events is a great group tradition and very worthwhile activity. Having both hidden and found temp caches at the High Cliff Camp-out, I can tell you that it is just as (if not more) rewarding to find a WGA event temp cache as it is to find a fully qualified published geocache. It’s unfortunate (there’s that word again) that we cannot all get “credit” for finding these caches. I would be a major proponent of official recognition of these finds either on geocaching.com (perhaps as a log type and a separated count on your profile) or on our WGA website somewhere (like the Lonely Cache Game module).

I also think that we should always encourage finding of the temp caches with prizes awarded at the event.

With WGA event temp caches, we get to see member creativity that’s not always possible on a permanent published cache. The temp caches were (hands down) my family’s favorite part of the camp-out event. It’s a very well-organized event experience (with the stampers and all) and I would hate to see it go away because it doesn’t increase our ‘official’ geocaching.com find count.

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