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Congrats!!

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Congrats!!!

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I see that one of my caches was rated with a single vote.

Out of the 1000 plus I have found, most that have been rated have a single vote or a few and most that are rated are in the Wilwaukee & Westbend (cache bash caches mostly) areas.

Last time this was posted I hadn’t downloaded it but this time I went and put it on my home laptop. Neat idea and use of greasemonkey.

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I found this one long ago but never realized how old it was or that it potentially is the oldest spirit quest designated cache.

Thanks for pointing that out zuma!

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@nohandsgps wrote:

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

If we’re beating dead horses, I still want to see roundabouts banned. Not the caches… just the roundabouts.

Is it illegal to continue driving around the circle. I think street racers should hold races in roundabouts. They could go from drag racing to circle track style racing.

Interesting question! I’ve witnessed at least one person stay in one of them for a couple rounds.

I suppose they pose a real big issue with indecisive people trying to figure out where to go out to eat while driving around…

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@Zemmy wrote:

@gotta run wrote:

FREEEEEEDOM!!!!!! TO NOT SIGN CACHE LOOOOOOOOOOOOGS!!!!!!

With this in mind: I just found 933,000 caches in one day.

I’ll leave the rest for tomorrow

Logging them all online will be the hard part…

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Oh and I am starting to like the additional set of puzzle attributes option better than my difficulty + category idea.

To add the flashlight attribute I believe they had to pull one. And I have read countless threads about attributes being added on their forums with nothing coming of them. Yes it’s actually an uphill battle to add attributes based on what I’ve read.

A separate set of puzzle attributes sounds like an awesome idea now that I think about it.

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@Team Deejay wrote:

I would guess “no”. That said, let’s just say they are aware of the issue.

Boy that sucks. Too bad the larger groups of cachers out there don’t have at least a smidgen more “pull” when it comes to shaping the way the game is played or a feature is implemented.

But that’s the answer I expected to hear. Now if our group was a for-profit company such as Garmin we would be able to impact their business decisions. 😉

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@marc_54140 wrote:

I tried logging in around 1 PM yesterday. Got a screen message stating the site was down for maintenance. First time I have seen that. Usually, it just does not load, or an error message.

They implemented this screen during an update about 2 or 3 months ago and have used it for each actual site update day since.

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I think more people out there “mis-read” your post zuma. Perhaps it’s how you said what you said? Read again..

(emphasis mine)

As to the topic that the thread was stolen to, I dont see the connection between “quality” and obtuse puzzles that S|S tried to make. To me, an obtuse puzzle or a puzzle that tries to get me to google a topic that I have no interest in at all, is not a “quality” cache. If other folks like doing those, then great, go get em, but dont try to tell me that those are “quality” caches, cuz I have done enough of them to know otherwise.

Fairly harsh words pointed towards an individual cacher and member to be coming from a respected board member.

He has every right to be upset with you personally for what you said. I would be if you said those things about me and the work I put into hundreds of caches.

Now back to the topic.. well sort of,

And all of this is still ON TOPIC in part because the OP of this thread lives and caches near Appleton a city within our great state of Wisconsin and there are hundreds of puzzle caches “saturating” the area published by seldom|seen of which those living in this area and/or spending any amount of time with the thread OP at events have heard him b&m about this particular cacher and “his puzzles” and how many there are. It was bound to get on topic eventually anyway because there are only so many high volume puzzle cache creators in our state!

Now I am sure he wasn’t referring solely to seldom|seen puzzle saturation. So in all fairness to marc (and alex), my apologies for pointing it in that direction.

I am glad it did get pointed in that direction for one reason. I hope marc has read alex’s heartfelt and lengthy response. It addresses many things that though may get a bit off-topic definitely needed to be said, to marc.

I still think this thread is funny coming from someone who holds events encouraging puzzles…

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“Quality” cache = location, location, location.

THE CACHE IS NOT LOCATED AT THE ABOVE LISTED COORDINATES.

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@cheezehead wrote:

“Night Caches” are now to be designated with a “?” or so I read somewhere.

Yep, that could be added to my category option. Forgot those.

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@AstroD-Team wrote:

I would be in favor of it, but I think it has the potential of being more subjective than objective. One only needs to look at the D/T rating of many caches… but it would be a good start.

I would love to see an attribute for puzzle caches that can be solved in the field. Those are much different than solving those puzzles requiring me to sit home at a computer and pulling my hair out. As it stands, I have to read each puzzle cache page to sort them out. That’s a big PITA!

If you follow the Geocaching website forum where Groundspeak asks you to post your requests and new ideas you will see that every single thread asking for a new cache size, new attribute, rating system, etc. has many responses just like this one from Astro D Team. And I agree, you are correct.

Just as with the existing difficulty, terrain, attributes, heck even cache size and description the cache owner is free to pick and choose. Subjectively, objectively, correctly, incorrectly, etc.

These things are always subject to interpretation. However, providing the system in the first place is a start. I like that the features are there and open to interpretation based on location, your local caching community, and so forth. If the feature is there cache owners will use it and in general they should be fairly reliable just like the other features. Yeah it’s subjective and not always right but it’s a start to help those looking to “filter the madness” 🙂

The ideal system for me as a Mystery/Puzzle cache creator (by the way with the new website update today all references to “Unknown” type have been removed and replaced with Mystery/Puzzle) would be the following 2 NEW options:

Mystery/Puzzle Category:
Research/Trivia, Field Solve, Math/Numbers Puzzle, Cipher, Series/Multi, Word/Letters Puzzle, Other, Not Chosen (and maybe other “high level” categories?)

Mystery/Puzzle Difficulty:
5-Star system similar to existing rating systems with a Not Chosen option.

Ideally both of these options would be available in a Pocket Query similar to cache type and difficulty/terrain.

All existing puzzle/mystery caches would be set to Not Chosen for both new options and owners would have the choice to use them on existing and newly published caches.

Owners could choose whether adding the category is appropriate and whether it would increase or decrease the difficult to know the category or not.

Because these caches often “push the envelope” they can’t always be categorized but if the categories are broad they could work.

Oh and for this proposed system to work, challenge caches would have to be separated out from Mystery/Puzzle with a new type (requested often in the geocaching.com forums) OR set as one of the Puzzle/Mystery cache categories. Difficulty would then rate the “challenge”.

This way, the existing cache difficulty rating would be solely for the cache hide in the field as opposed to the difficulty of the puzzle.

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Nope, there’s a release notes post for another new website release.

This one was an intentional downtime window to release new code.

One of the “biggies” I see there is they added attributes to PQ and the GPX file which the release notes thread says will be supported by the iPhone v3 app that was uploaded to apple’s store today.

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