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I see that some of us like to peruse cards to see who’s been there before, but that’s what the log book is for; not just to prove your find to the owner, but for other cachers to see the history of the cache. Leaving cards as well as signing the log book seems redundant.
Perhaps I’m misreading this, but it seems like the people that LEAVE cards themselves are the ones that like to peruse the cards of others; sort of like a sub-genre of cachers.
Perhaps some people collect them in a subconscious effort to tidy up the box?
I was unaware that it was legitimate to collect them, as I considered it part of logging the find, and logs stay with caches. Do people that leave cards wish them to be collected by others? Hmmm…
Maybe I should keep a box of paper clips or rubber bands in my cache backpack, and just clip or band them all together in a tidy bundle.
Another unintended effect is that if multiple finds AREN’T allowed, people hosting events are less likely to hide large amounts of temporary caches. Why go through the trouble of planting 30-40 temps if people can’t log them? People would ignore the temps and only do the full-time caches in the same area to get the finds.
For those of us who live in rural areas and have exhausted local caches, events give us a chance to Geocache without having to travel great distances.
If temps were scattered on a park field like Easter eggs on the White House Lawn, then it would be silly to allow multiple finds. However, most events’ temp caches are equal to a standard cache, so they should be loggable. It’s that simple.
However, it takes a lot of time to log a lot of finds for an event; I wish there was a way to log multiple finds of an event with a single screen; some sort of checkbox system, where you can click on all the ones you found at once.
[This message has been edited by DCexplorer (edited 07-28-2005).]
Scary that whomever owns this cache may get a bill for the bomb squad’s troubles… I will certainly start painting over or covering the words such as “ammo” or “explosives” from now on. Too bad the bumber stickers from groundspeak cost so much…
I own seven caches in Green Bay and Door County. I would, of course, like a couple (or at least one) to plant up here. What I can do is paypal $3.00 for a USPS Priority cardboard envelope, and you could mail it out. Others might want to do the same, and a truly statewide distribution would happen. I would even go to $4.00 for your time. If enough people do this, you could accumulate enough cash for a six pack or even a case…
Already done. I emailed the email listed on their home page, a hotmail address, which bounced back. I also placed a note on the Lighthouse log, asking them to contact me. They placed three caches, one on 5/14/03, and two on 5/26/03. These hides are mentioned on their home page. Of the three caches hidden, “Sturgeon Bay Canal Lighthouse” (GCG66R) is the only one healthy. “Wequiock Falls” (GCG66T) is archived, and “Forest Brook Bridge” (GCG3YT) is still active, but hasn’t had a find since last August 23, with several no finds. If they were still active cachers, I would think they would have addressed their distressed caches. Their home page states that “In early May 2003 we saw a segment on geocaching on the television and thought it would be both fun to hide as well as find some of these caches.” They placed three caches within a month of joining the sport, found three caches, all in one day, (June 22, ’03) and then disappeared as quickly as they started. It does seem a little odd, but all information points to their having left the sport. Who was it that said that the brightest stars burn out the fastest?
This is Wisconsin! All bars are kid-friendly. Seriously, Joe’s is fine for kids, but I rate JJ’s up in Sister Bay as having a better burger.
Another SNA, Mud Lake, has two maps pointed to two different Mud Lakes. Hmmm…
I found those maps, and they seem helpful if they’re available, but they aren’t available for all the SNAs. I clicked on North Bay, for example, and maps weren’t available there.
This topic was created in error, when I hit “post new topic” instead of “post reply” However, in response, yes, I found those maps, and they are helpful if they’re available, but they aren’t available for all the SNAs. I clicked on North Bay, for example, and maps weren’t available there.
Are these maps you’re using to determine SNA boundaries available to the general public? The DNR site has nice descriptions of the flora and fauna, but little help in determining the actual boundaries of SNAs such as Europe Bay and Rock Island Woods. That would clear up a lot of confusion.
As far as Kangaroo Lake, since that SNA is owned by the Nature Conservancy and the Door County Land Trust, perhaps contacting the local land manager for approval, like CP Blacksmith did for “Top of Niagara,” would be a way to avoid archiving it.
Same with Ellison Bluff; as kbraband noted, he “grandfathered” the ominous “Devils Lake Revisited.” You could do the same with Ellison Bluff, or seek permission from the county to leave it. With all the trails they’re bulldozing into the bluff, not disturbing the ecosystem isn’t a priority up there.
In the DNR’s defense, they are getting their budget slashed while simultaneously being asked to perform more tasks with less personnel. I’m sure the WGA is pretty low on their worry list right now.
Yes, and when you’re reading “The Little Engine That Could” to your three year old daughter, make sure you skip over the word “jack-knife” in describing the good things boys and girls could want, and hold your thumb over the picture of the pocket knife.
I seem to be playing point-counterpoint with lots of administrators. Whitefish Dunes State Park is a SNA with the largest and most significant Great Lakes dunescape in Wisconsin. Yet people are welcome to swim there, lay about on blankets, bring coolers, and I’ve even seen kids digging in the sand with little plastic shovels.
At least Jvechinski agrees with me that different SNAs have different rules. Will he also agree with me that since the DNR has different rules for different SNAs, then the WGA should also have different rules for different SNAs?
So it seems like our hands are somewhat tied due to the lack of action/information from the DNR. Here’s what I’m hearing:
1. boundaries of SNAs hard to determine. Descriptions and lack of maps from DNR not much help. “Rock Island Woods?” Rock Island is almost entirely forested. Does that mean the whole island?
2. SNAs that allow hunting/public access should allow Geocaching. Hunting is also an off-trail activity. The DNR in its wisdom tried doing a “controlled burn” on a windy day at Mud Lake (a SNA with hunting access) a few years back. It got out of control, and burned hundreds of acres down. Yet a cache box there would damage the environment?
3. Outlawing ALL Geocaching on ALL SNAs because a few inappropriate placements may happen would be like banning the possession of a candy bars or picnic lunches in a SNA because some people might throw their litter on the ground. As kbraband stated, he pulled one of his caches because it was in a sensative area, but left another where impact would be minimal. That’s common sense. I’ll be moving one of mine soon, because some nearby ferns are getting walked on. That’s what smart hiders should be doing, monitoring their caches, and making sure impact is minimal. -
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