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Darn camo tape displays! I’m going to write the Duct people and insist that they shrink wrap those things in orange plastic, so a fella can find them in the store.

I have the same problem with paint … I was spraying an ammo box with flat black, grey and green … turned around to set down the paints … turned back, took me 10 minutes to find the darn ammo box … then I could not find the spray paint cans.

The lessons I’ve learned:
(1) Always leave the ammo boxes open until you’ve place them inside the rotted out tree. The natural dark green of the inside of the box makes it visible 5 feet away.
(2) Never put your paint cans next to each other. Keep a 1 feet gap between them, or replace the lids with day-glo-orange lids.

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Opps, I see the asker is in Neenah … correction to my earlier listing: I bet you can find some closer than the hardware store in Port Washington

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I’ve seen it at True Value Hardware stores, specifically Drew’s True Value in Port Washington, WI (N43 24.579 W87 52.263). Think I’ve seen it at Fleet Farm, Home Depot, and Dunham Sport too. It’s hard to find, cause it’s camo and blends in with it’s surroundings

Oh ya … will most likely not find it in the geocaching section , I see it by the “normal” duct tape (by the house paint / masking tape-ish area at Drew’s), in some stores it might be by hunting stuff.

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I’m taking the advice and will go out and pick up the pieces and rebuild the cache. Most likely I WILL need to relocate to new coordinates (as close to this spot as seems safe) (will have “admin” update the coords) … not only is this spot muggled over and over and over again … but they have totally kicked apart the stump that the cache was hidden in, its now just a pile of bark with a worn out tupperware under it. The hidding spot is very close to the busiest area of this trail, no ground cover, the stump was it; when I found the thing I saw it from the trail.

I agree that 2 months could just mean a vacation, where you don’t check the GC listing or your email (cause I emailed the owner end of May) … but if you look at the entire log history for this cache, it appears to have been mistreated by mugglers for a long time (finders find it in the wrong place – a shelter nearby – and move it back to the coords, etc.). However, looking at the log history, you NEVER see any comments/logs by the OWNER … there just is nothing to give one the impression that the owner is lurking about.

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Originally posted by ecorangers:
… last year at this time I was training for triathlons almost daily and racing them on the weekends …

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Tami, regarding your running life, you happen to know a “Matt Thull” (Al’s Run Photo ) or a “Mark Manning”.

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Besides the “average person” type stuff, I guess the most notable “hobby” I had, was that I wrote Murder Mystery performances; casting them, directing them and performed them in local dinner/theater location. I’ve always been bad a memorizing lines, so by writing my own material and designing the things to be interactive-adlibbing with the audience, I found my niche. Last couple years they’ve become more of a “second job” than “something fun” … started doing them because the local establishment kept asking me to do more of them and got some pay for them. Then geocaching came along … less work, more fun … you may notice I’ve got a high “owner” vs. “finder” ratio, this is due to my creative nature being stronger than my sense of direction (hence my avatar trail going in circles) … plus the wife and kids will only let me loose in the woods (with or without them) for so long.

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Thanks for doing that.
If you feel that the owner has left the sport/game … speak up … I’d be happy to dump the non-damaged contents in another cache and toss out the worn out tupperware … I’m guessing I’m one of the closest cachers to this location.

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Just an observation … I think it’s funny that my simple little question (how many feet = a coordinate “tick”) has caused enough traffic to get a flaming folder symbol! I though I was going to get one answer from one person and that would be it. Ain’t forums a fun thing!

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I like “AstroD-Team”‘s comments! The other day I’d typed a list of MY “ideals” regarding travel bugs. Then I decided that a list of 10 items that went on for 2 screens would make people roll their eyes at me, so I canceled the whole darn thing. But “AstroD-Team” has spurred me into action on a couple items, so roll away .

One of my “ideals” was the same concept about keeping a bug moving, but in the wrong direction. Would it be better off where it is? Of course, you can argue that you will never know, because you don’t know what the next person would have done in either the old location or new location.

I also think as a hotel owner, that it appears that I have a responsibility to remove TBs that are not moving and replace them with ones in my possession. This of course, also comes with the “unknown” of not knowing what the NEXT guy that found my hotel was going to do. Like I said yesterday, this should be fun and I think I’m trying to hard.

About TBs with no PRINTED goals attached … amen to that … everytime I find a TB that is just loose in a cache, I take that TB, hit “Print Bug Sheet” on the web page and give the TB a nice home in a brand new ziplock bag with the sheet in it. My daugter is making a series of 8 “creatures” as we speak, that she is very proud of, when the get their TB tags they will even have tiny little Gladware containers to protect them from getting broken (at least for awhile).

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just to make kbraband’s day twice … I’ll agree with him again, on everything that has been said … at the same time, these forums are a great place to “tweak” ideas back in forth … one more “personal viewpoint” that I’d like to throw into the mix and await response from all points of view (I will duck if need be):

Could one not argue that by making a cache hotel hard for geomugglers to find (which I think my “Valley of Oz TB Zoo” is), do I not potentially protect the TBs in it from being swiped by geomugglers. I’d rather have a TB in a hard to get to hotel, than have it disappear from the face of the geocaching earth. Not saying anyone else’s is hotel is in a bad spot, just pointing out the good side of putting TBs “behind bars” .

Also, I feel bad that I’ve added to “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” frustration. I think we (mainly me) need to “sit loose in the saddle” and keep this stuff fun. Do what you think is right and fair and don’t look back. The only enemy out there are those stupid mosquitoes … a rasberry to those mosquitoes … my next cache is going to have an anti-skeeter theme, I’ve already made a Travel bug to get the thing started: http://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?guid=0b71a584-db1b-4098-83ef-f8525d9a44a9

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GPS = Garmin Emap

Some time ago I download “GpsBabel” software, which works well for converting .loc files to MapSource (.mps) files for my Garmen software to take in.

This was never an issue about lack of knowing what to do, so lack of doing the right thing at the right time.

This past weekend I download 4 caches and went out with the kids … found them all quickly (the caches, not the kids) … it’s a lot easier watching an arrow pointing in one direction or another and telling you it’s 427 feet away … rather than watching all those N and W numbers flying by (of course you still need those Ns and Ws the last few feet or you end up in a swamp).

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I think it’s safe to say my main addiction has moved to travel bugs … as a few people in another forum subject can agree … in fact my 12 yr daughter (the elder “Cookie Creep”) is in the process of taking a storybook she made that contains 8 “Strange Creatures of the North” and is turning her drawings into Sculpty-clay little creatures, the leader being something called a “Ring Tailed Duffus” (a name I called the kids when they are driving me nuts) … I’ve got the TB tags on order, when my daughter is done making the little creatures and we have them all baked-hardened in the oven … you will see these creatures appearing in caches in the Ozaukee/Washington/Sheboygan county area. If you want to see the first couple, I will bring them to the July 4th picnic that “active2gether” is holding at zip 53012.

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Thanks all.
I see the point about a Hotel making more sense near an easy to get to location. Maybe I will reword my “rules” on the page to be a little less pushy, let the finder decide. For it’s location, the Hotel has had pretty good traffic … I’ve noticed bugs sitting in other “regular” caches in Ozaukee County not moving much more … wish there were more of us in this area.

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Thanks for the comments so far. After posting this question, I did find a couple similar comments on the GC website. Seems to be mixed feelings on the issue … based on the GC I do see AND AGREE with the point that the main goal of TBs is to Travel … which I guess by logic would make any TB Hotel a semi-bad idea. I guess as the owner of the Hotel, my attitude should be (and is becoming) that you hope it works for the best, but as the owner by choosing to make a Hotel part of general maintenance means keeping it stocked. I still welcome more comments. To “kbraband” please don’t be ticked (or skeetered) at me for my question, you are right in keeping the TBs moving … I’m new at this and would rather make new friends, than have a ammo box full of TBs … I’m more excited when you or another finder logs a visit to my caches, than anti-excited about lesser TBs. Maybe the next question I could ask … is the fact that I have a TB Hotel (in this case the “Valley of Oz TB Zoo”) likely to DECREASE finders because of the limitations, vs. a standard cache with no “rules”? I never considered that, especially since I put tons of non-TB things in the cache. Again, I much rather have visitors than people turned off by rules?

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Hi Tie:
Makes sense that if the linked site goes down, so would the graphic. But after it happened a few times, I started checking the wi-geocaching site at the same time I noticed the graphic was gone, but the site was up and running. I did happen to notice on one occassion now, that when the graphic was missing on my cache page, it was also missing on the w-g site, which makes total sense … other than why would the w-g site loose a graphic image on their site while the site itself is still up. Must be something similar to that magnetic anamoly at a cache I’m going to find today in Sheboygan.

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