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@-cheeto- wrote:
In fact, there was just a big hubub on the letterboxing boards about the merits of specifically NOT asking permission.
No comment…
Man this topic keeps coming up over there. Very interesting. Letterboxers (meaning letterboxers “only”) first off seem to operate under the impression that every geocacher is out to destroy their box and every parks manager is out to pull it.
So the main objective is to try to find ways to make letterboxes difficult to find–not difficult to find in the field, just difficult to find where they ARE. So unless you’re a local yokel, you have no chance of figuring out where some of these places are.
Then to throw the parks managers off the scent, the best things to do are 1) not name the park; 2) give the wrong name of the park or city; 3) spell the name of the park backwards…etc etc.
I suggested that if parks people were pulling their boxes with questions and for permission issues, perhaps it might be simpler just to talk to the parks managers at said parks for permission. At which juncture I was told I obviously don’t know what I’m talking about because I have obviously never dealt with a parks manager. 🙄 “Better to ask forgiveness than permission,” I am told.
The level of vitriol on the letterboxing boards toward geocachers is amazing at times. Combine that with a nose-in-the-air snobbery about “quality” of boxes versus caches…oh man.
I’m glad we don’t spend all our time complaining about letterboxers. That gives us more time to discuss more important issues like multi-logging, temp cache logging, the state of the WGA logo on cache pages….
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On the Left Side of the Road...@labrat_wr wrote:
Wait, isn’t that 400?
I’m no good at math…so what’s sadder, my math skills or the fact that you took the time to count them…. 😆
On the Left Side of the Road...@-cheeto- wrote:
The first geocoin I ever found (in one of the first caches I ever found) was in a nice plastic protector with a hole drilled through the center of the coin and protector and another personalized tag attached. This made it look pretty “official” as in a “game piece” and less like a collectible. As a newbie, I was not tempted in any way to keep it. Ads a bit of support for the idea of drilling and adding a tag.
I think in the other thread on this topic, or some thread about the Geobash, that one of the coin “vendors” there was selling drilled coins.
I did this with one coin we got as a prize a while back but it seemed like such a desecration that I haven’t done it since. I also do not buy any coins because sooner or later I know they will disappear. Since you’ll likely never see the coin again either way (after all the point is to travel), TB tags seem safer and you can put them on what you want. And like I said the ugly ones and ones that aren’t attractive to kids last longer. A kid might take the Polly Pocket TB and her newbie parents might not realize it’s a trackable, but said kid is not likely to take a wooden barn peg, to use an example.
Again we don’t buy any coins but we have received a few as prizes. In those cases, we take the generic card (Oak Coins, whatever it says) out of the plastic sleeve and add a message that says “This coin is not to take, it belongs to someone, it is meant to travel, log on geocaching.com” or something to that effect. The trackable language on a coin is simply too small to be seen unless you know what you are looking for.
This won’t deter coin theives, but hopefully it will alert newbies that they are not trading items, for at least as long as the plastic sleeves hold up.
With that said, I give the “Volunteer Reviewer” coin we recently released about a 1% chance of making it to a third cache.
On the Left Side of the Road...From GC172T8 – with our apologies for the bees and the wet map, the latter of which will be remedied in short order…
Well ther’s nothing like a good pirate adventure after a morning at the zoo. This one would turn out to be a great story to be told. Our crew consisted of Mister Greenthumb and Sunshine, Opps5 Mom and the 3E’s (aka Papa, Grandma, daughter Becky and grandkids Emma, Evan and Eric.
The adventure started with the spotting of the sign warning of the bear sighting just 2 weeks ago. As we started the hike we found we had left the combination information at the lake. Luckily 12 year old Emma has a good memory that turned out to be true. We began the hike and played it smart and stayed on the trails even though they often took us further away fron our destination. At the first waypoint we made a quick find and dislodged the container only to find it with some water inside and a soaked map. Pete must have been wise enough to apply some candle wax or other substance to the map as it was still easily readable and we gathered the necessary information. We again stayed on the trail and only entered the woods when we were within 200′ of the prize. At about 20′ off the trail 7 year old Eric stepped on a bee’s nest. A few of them flew up inside the leg of his shorts and stung him on the _ _ _ _ UOCH !!!! If there were any bears in the woods the screaming has now driven them away.
Mister Greenthumb, Evan and Emma resumed the search while Grandma and Mom tried to comfort Eric. Not far into the woods we lost our signal and had to go blind. Remembering the hint we quickly spotted a likely hiding spot about 100′ ahead. It proved to be the right spot and we quickly dug up the treasure chest. Now is it left-right-left or right-left-right? We came up with a way to figure that out which we will not give away. The chest was opened and pirate booty spilled out (it actually did as Evan tipped it over) on the forest floor. We plundered Pete’s fortune and left some worthless pirate treasure for the next foolhardy souls. We also dropped off a Captain Morgan the Pirate TB. As we returned to our vessel we counted heads and were fortunate to leave with all of those who came. Thanks for the great adventure and we will post some pictures to go along with our log.
On the Left Side of the Road...We wouldn’t invest in coins meant to travel. Simply too expensive and too likely to go missing. So they’re not “worth it.”
Tags are a little better, and usually the uglier the bug the more likely it is to last.
The good news is that sometimes both TBs and coins show up after being missing for some time. But I still wouldn’t buy a coin.
On the Left Side of the Road...@Team B Squared wrote:
If you want to see what caches you have found in your latest gpx download when you load it to a pre-existing database you would click on “Search” and then select “Filter” from the drop down. In the dialog that opens, just uncheck the check box next to “Unfound” and click “go” at the bottom. This will show you all of the caches that you have found in your database. To delete the caches you have found you would then right click and select “delete waypoint”. You would then select “All Waypoints in Filter” and click “ok”.
I’ll try that and let you know. Usually the caches that we have found show up highlighted yellow, and since they didn’t, I assumed GSAK didn’t know they were found. Maybe it knows it somehow but it isn’t showing it, in which case the filtering will work and we know how to do that.
Someone should write a book on all this stuff…!!!
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@SammyClaws wrote:
I dont know if you use GSAK or not, but I keep loading the same file over the top of the old one, so that it always has all the unfound on it.
All right, this is my last sticking point on this procedure. And we’re using GSAK.
I would like to keep a main database of “unfoundcaches.gpx.” This basically represents the results of a PQ for unfound caches within X miles of our home coordinates.
Additionally, I would like to load new PQs over the top of this gpx file so that the logs continue to accumulate. That was another discussion in another thread–how to get more than 5 logs in a PQ. There is no way to do that in a single PQ, but it was suggested that by continually updating a gpx file over time you can build up the number of logs it contains.
However, if you use the same gpx file and simply update it with a new PQ, there is no way to easily see what caches you have found since you last updated the file. You have to go through, tick off the files, and delete them.
It seems the only foolproof way to get a completely clean gpx file (i.e., not containing found caches) is to create a completely new file from a new PQ. Otherwise you have to do manual data manipulation.
Am I missing something here? How do other GSAK users manage their “main database?”
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On the Left Side of the Road...@Lostby7 wrote:
I agree the way the caches are not editable / deletable is a pain.
well I can keep hoping i just missed the feature somehow!
On the Left Side of the Road...No, I had looked at that before when I read the whole wiki. Deleting the .txt file just clears out your field notes. It doesn’t say anything about clearing finds by deleting the file.
The gpx file is unchanged, and the little open boxes are still there cluttering up my nice screen.
On the Left Side of the Road...8) x 1,800
On the Left Side of the Road...@Lostby7 wrote:
Routing: I was hoping for better routing on the unit but it is still sluggish (taking about .25 to .30 miles before recalculating).
The 450 does a recalc within a few seconds. I wonder if it’s a difference between using a hardware-installed map (CN uploaded to the device) versus your SD card?
I’ll let you know if I have the same experience with the 500 (when it get’s here 👿 )
On the Left Side of the Road...Howdy! We recognize your handle from some Algoma caches.
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