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@zuma wrote:
Despite the rude comments by one of the posters here, this is a very appropriate question, and thank you for asking it.
All right, Ralph, obviously this is directed at me so here you go.
I have no problem with this question being answered. I think my explanation of that is quite clear.
Rude? Ok, that’s your perspective, and I’ll grant you that my response was more animated than it otherwise might have been because this is not the first time I have browsed the forums only to be surprised to see reference made to a specific cache of ours.
Rude? Shouldn’t we expect the courtesy of being asked first when it’s our cache? More important, shouldn’t we expect that cachers who KNOW it is our cache at least give a gentle nudge to a newbie cacher in that direction, rather than take the opportunity to give a specific spoiler in the answer?
@zuma wrote:
After all the heading for the help forum says, and I quote: “Stuck on a cache? GPSR got you baffled? Ask here and we’ll all try and help!”
Does not the description line on the main forum page for another help-related thread say that, and I also quote, “Note that this forum should not be used to post dead giveaways or spoilers for any puzzle cache?”
Ok, that’s on a different thread, and this isn’t a puzzle cache, but what’s the difference in logic?
If you still don’t understand my frustration, let’s say I’m going to start a thread and say, “Tough micros in the woods,” or whatever your favorite hide style happens to be.
Then I’ll say:
“I’m stuck on [NAME OF ZUMA’s CACHE HERE]. What could I be looking for?”
Then, let’s say a cacher who has found this cache of yours says, “Well, it could be A, B, or C,” where C is the specific place your cache is hidden.
I’m guessing you would be ok with that then?
Then repeat that process above for a few more of your caches.
@zuma wrote:
And dont be afraid to ask questions. Most of your fellow cachers are more than willing to lend a hand, especially once ya post a DNF on a particular cache.
This is my point!!!! We are MORE THAN WILLING to lend a hand on any of our OWN caches. We have done so on this particular cache, more than once, to emails we have received.
@zuma wrote:
There may be an exception or two, but those folks that gotta whine are the exception, and not the norm.
No need to take a glancing blow here. You think I’m an ass, so be it. Hopefully people who have actually dealt with me personally think otherwise.
On the Left Side of the Road...Well, assuming you’re the adventurous type (i.e., not afraid of a hike), here are some of our favorites. This is a deliberately short list.
GC4C4 – Oldest in the county
Here are five of the tougher terrain ones in the county:
GCGE6B – Absolutely must do.
GCGE2Z – GC65AD – Good challenges
GCP0JM – Great park on the “quiet side”
GCKDTW – Likewise.I’m sure you’ll get many recommendations on lighthouse caches and memorable spots and such, which are also good, but if you like a bit of a challenge, these would be our top ones.
On the Left Side of the Road...@odysseyuwrf wrote:
I only was looking to be educated on containerless caches.
odysseyuwrf, this is a valid question and I understand that even though you asked “what could I be looking for” on our specific cache, that this perhaps reflected a larger question.
I think everyone who has been reading this thread–and it’s been a lot of people–can see that our frustration comes from having a specific cache of ours discussed in these forums on multiple occasions.
And, it goes beyond that. We are not new to these forums. We are not new to the geocaching community. You know we help out on questions we are asked. For goodness sake, we have 200 caches placed and most people reading here have found one or another and we’ve taken calls or emails from dozens of you.
Marc, your post is particularly galling. Yes I am calling you out. You absolutely know how much this kind of stuff bugs us yet apparently don’t care. You know it was our cache. You’ve found it just a month ago so it’s not like it’s a foggy memory from years ago.
So rather than post a quick, “Yes, this one’s tricky, but just drop the owner a note and they’ll help,” you write a four-paragraph reply that explicitly includes how the waypoint is done??? I know you like to espouse how “the purpose of geocaching is to find the cache,” but why don’t you keep your spoilers to your own caches, ok? Oh wait, that’s right, I don’t see you posting threads here with spoilers to your own.
On the Left Side of the Road...Now then. With that out of my system, let me assure you that waypoint three is there on this cache. The correct location of the waypoint was alluded to above.
In order to save everyone the time of actually trying to figure out which of the possibilities it could possibly be, here’s a step by step:
1. As you approach the coordinates for WP3, you will see two small sections of decorative, split-rail fence on either side of the path. The fence seems to be there for no particular reason, and it is the only structure of any kind within 30′ of this spot. There are no trees or other brush nearby, so obviously the fence is “it.”
2. Go to the fence section on the EAST side. If you are approaching from the south (the school side), that will put it on your right. If you are approaching from the north (baseball diamond side), it will put it on your left.
3. There are two railings on the small section. Find the lower railing.
4. Find a way to look UNDER the railing. You may be able to do this by bending at the waist and turning your head. Or, you may need to lay on your back and physically stick your head under the rail if you are not as limber.
5. Look closely at the underside of the bottom railing. You will see a set of coordinates there. Enter those coordinates in your GPSr.
That’s about the best I can do. If anyone wants a tour, I swim at the pool Monday, Wednesday, and Friday morning, and I can meet you there about 5:15 a.m. to point it out for you.
On the Left Side of the Road...You know, to everyone who commented here after clearly seeing this was our cache…
What the hell?
I mean, it’s not like someone is asking about a cache in California or posting some hypothetical. You can clearly see who’s cache this is–or should have figured it out with 30 seconds of research.
Come on! You guys know us, and Marc I’ve given you enough hints on our caches and puzzles and taken enough phone calls from you that you know I’ll respond, and respond fully.
The FIRST course of action here should be to say, “What did the owner tell you?”
odysseyuwrf, you’ve emailed me before…why not on this cache?And where is your DNF log if you’ve been “so stuck” on this cache?
This is just shameless and inexusable. Yes I’m P.O.ed.
On the Left Side of the Road...Sigh. As always, folks, the owners of the cache (US) are ALWAYS happy to help when approach via email about these topics!!! It is very frustrating to (yet again) see of one our caches discussed in the public forum when we weren’t even contacted first.
I mean, there is a contact link right there on the page and everything.
Really, we don’t bite! Well, I can’t attest for Mrs. Gotta Run, but I promise not to.
On the Left Side of the Road...The fact that even though there are many parks in these parts that don’t have a single cache in them, most new caches that are being put out in this area are in signs and guard rails or otherwise within 5′ of a road. 🙁
On the Left Side of the Road...I also forgot that you can get notifications of archived caches as part of your insta-notifications from groundspeak.
On the Left Side of the Road...@acwildcachers wrote:
I guess I just see a little irony in the way most caches are archived. Cache owners generally seem to encourage finders to write at length about their experience with a cache and their journey finding it. Many hiders, on the other hand, end a cache’s life unceremoniously, without returning the favor and sharing any of their own experiences in maintaining the cache or explaining why it’s time to let it go.
The main reason I would guess is that, unless someone is watching the cache listing or taking the time to poke around through their old “found it” logs, nobody is ever going to see the archive log, or any other log that someone makes on the cache for that matter besides the owner. In contrast, owners as you know get notification of every log on an owned cache.
So, for the most part, giving a long explanation of why a cache is archived is like speaking to an empty room.
On the Left Side of the Road...Profile photo looks like a couple of kids?
Could be a new user ID and they’re taking a guess as to when they found caches with mom and dad.
Ask Jim & Linda, they have lots of finds on their caches.
I recently set up a new user ID for our daughter and at some point in time she may want to go back and log caches that she remembers, and she didn’t actually sign the log. I’d hate to have to justify a bunch of them.
Point being, it’s just a few blips in the geocaching.com database, so why sweat it?
But, I’ve been told here before by an admin that it’s my responsibility to police my logs, so…
On the Left Side of the Road...@hogrod wrote:
I also think these numbers are very off, most cachers don’t read the page at all.
Perhaps, but this is not a survey of most cachers. I think it’s probably fairly accurate for this particular sample.
On the Left Side of the Road...@labrat_wr wrote:
I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’m the map, I’M THE MAP!!!!
CURSE YOU LABRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😈
On the Left Side of the Road...@labrat_wr wrote:
or was it a BILLY BASS cranked, singin’ “Take me to the River”???
Ah crap, I did not want that earworm for the rest of the afternoon. Curse you labrat!
On the Left Side of the Road...@marc_54140 wrote:
Congratulations!
(Watch for burnout!)
Don’t expect him to respond any time soon, he’s already halfway to Clintonville…
On the Left Side of the Road...8) x 1,000
FTFs x ❓ ❓ ❓ 😯 😀
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