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Ya, I just find it odd is all. Actually the odder one is our EarthCache at Maribel caves (yes, there are 2 there…it is a long story). In that case, the regular cache is *harder* to find, IMO, than the EarthCache which basically takes a walk down a flight of stairs. But to each their own.
On the Left Side of the Road...@Trekkin’ and Birdin’ wrote:
There are a couple area cachers who are, well, careless. We have come to caches after them, finding them unhidden, not closed up completey. In a hurry or something. Unless a person hides some of their own, they just don’t realize the long term impact of their actions, or maybe lack thereof.
Yup. Got some like that here too. Apparently think it’s “Fun4” them to be the last to find on a cache. Always have to go check on your caches after they find them. No suprise, never placed a cache either.
On the Left Side of the Road...why keep trying
You keep trying because without people like you there would be no game of geocaching, just people wandering around in the woods with GPSs looking for…nothing. You keep trying even though you know there are many people who will give back nothing to the game over time by contributing the time and effort to place and maintain even one cache. You keep trying despite the fact that some lazy and careless people will wreck what you have worked hard to create and you will have to fix it. You keep trying because you hope that this group of people is a minority of cachers.
But mainly you keep trying because you enjoy it and because you know that there’s a large number of people who do appreciate what you do and who will take the time to experience and care for your cache as you have intended.
Look at it this way. Geocaching is like life. You work hard to produce something nice, and others that do not take part of it away. Sort of like the productivity (income) tax we have, except with geocaching at least you have some control…
On the Left Side of the Road...@-cheeto- wrote:
perhaps “trying to place one in every cemetery in a county” doesn’t necessarily do the sport much justice.
I’m assuming this isn’t directed at our statement in our SCC caches that we want to “bring new visitors to as many of these places as possible”
On the Left Side of the Road...But what they don’t have uncommon is that unfortunately only geocachers go whooping through the cemetery.
I haven’t seen this behavior first hand, but I have seen logs, paticularly on FTFs, that make me shake my head. I think that is one key benefit of the WSQ? caches, in that they eliminate a whole contingency of players that are rushing from one cache to the next and don’t take the time to even look around.
(Yes, we did blast through finding the large majority of these caches in one day, but Saxeville is a LONG drive away and we needed to make the most of it…even with gas at the $3 mark…)
On the Left Side of the Road...On the Left Side of the Road...Boy, it can’t be a backlog problem. Ususally they run w/in minutes. I ran some yesterday afternoon and they’re not here yet, and they show “never” for “last day run” in the PQ page…I think it’s a Major Malfunction.
On the Left Side of the Road...I highly recommend ExpertGPS. It is not free (or even real cheap), but nothing does the job it does, that I have found so far.
You can enter OR download waypoints, import GPX or LOC files, or whatever, to get waypoints in there.
Then, just draw proximity circles of .1 miles around the waypoints.
ExpertGPS has both satellite and topo map overlays.
Very, very useful program.
On the Left Side of the Road...Ooooooooooooooooooohhhh…and a letterbox to boot! Looks like we have a new mission! Starting to think about that milestone 1,000 cache–could this be the one? 28 squares to go on the bingo sheet is quite a few…
On the Left Side of the Road...Our first stamps were basically made with a pink eraser and an exacto knife and were…well, not that complicated, but no one really seems to mind.
Now we work with the regular sheets of stamping media and a carving kit. You can obviously get more complicated. But both the blocks and kits are available at most hobby-type stores. Michaels carries them if there is a store near you.
For our clue letterboxes, we usually give the letterboxing.org link in the page so that cachers can use either. Like the “salmon run” series.
Some of the other letterboxes are more like puzzles, (“Time Travels,” “WSQ The Rose”), so the clues are same for both sites!
On the Left Side of the Road...Cow flatulence.
On the Left Side of the Road...Not to completely hijack the thread, but I raised the question of “why don’t boxers find our hybrids” on the atlasquest.com forums, to which the respondents generally sniffed, “perhaps it’s because your clues are bad.”
To which I replied, well, we have hybrids such as this one– GC1FPWT –that use the same clues for both games, but only geocachers have found it. So maybe geocachers are just better at orienteering…
On the Left Side of the Road...The thread above seems to be spot on. A quick summary is that:
1. You have to somehow have the GPSr be “integral” to the hunt, and that’s supposed to be more than just “here’s where you park,” although I’ve seen it done that way.
2. Clues are not needed. Most of our hybrids work like a regular cache, just go to the coordinates.
3. A stamp is needed in addition to regular cache stuff. I have seen some caches include separate logs for cachers and boxers, but it seems like overkill to me.
4. No dual-listing is required.
We enjoy letterboxes but truthfully have been a bit dissapointed in the response to them on both sides of the aisle. It seems (?) geocachers avoid them becuase they are “something different.” We had a new LB sit for over a week w/o a FTF while other nearby caches were found.
On the letterboxing side, there is a GREAT deal of snobbery about geocachers. I can say that here without being flamed mercilessly (I think!!!). But boxers seem to think geocachers can’t find their way out of a woods without a little arrow and have a monopoly on bad eco-behavior in the woods. This seems to carry over into a general disdain for hunting hybrids.
So, to date, we have three hybrids out there that have NEVER been found by letterboxers, despite some of them being out for over half a year. Other “letterboxing.org”-only sites have been found often.
That’s just an aside, but something to consider as you consider placement and/or dual publication.
On the Left Side of the Road...Sorry, but I don’t see ever applying an idea like this. The first purpose of the puzzle cache IMO is to solve the puzzle. Posting how to find the cache without solving the puzzle is like coming up with a really tough-to-find traditional, then posting written directions for how to find the cache just in case someone doesn’t want to go through the trouble of actually looking for it.
Besides, if I ever see the cookie cutter “Easy cache for our team to find” log from my favorite caching team on one of our puzzle caches, my head will explode. One of the best parts about puzzle caches is that the drive-by cachers who create most of the avoidable maintenance problems by and large avoid them.
On the Left Side of the Road...Been there…
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