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On the Left Side of the Road...Geocachers complain that letterboxers put their boxes on top of caches. Letterboxers complain that cachers put their caches on top of boxes. Maybe it’s just that neither group really looks for other stuff out there before they use a great spot!
And yes, letterboxers think that geocachers trample the woods, can’t find their way out of a paper bag without a GPSr, and place crappy caches every .1 mile, and steal stamps from letterboxes they find thinking that they are swag. The last one is unfortunately true.
One of the favorite things that some letterboxers like to do when they come across a geocache is to turn it into an unoffical letterbox by using a random piece of swag in the cache, inking it up, and stamping their book with it. I, of course, have never done this, although I hear that Hot Wheels tires make pretty cool stamp impressions when rolled across a page.
On the Left Side of the Road...Yes, please just drop it in a regular letterbox from the atlasquest or letterboxing.org sites.
Not all hitchhikers are logged online. There is no tracking number like a bug. They pretty much just get released into the wild never to be seen again.
It’s always funny reading comments from geocachers disparaging letterboxers in these and other forums…you shoud hear what letterboxers have to say about geocachers in their forums! :wow:
On the Left Side of the Road...Holy crap, that’s a pain when you upload a pq of 1000 caches…no wonder it’s full.
On the Left Side of the Road...@Trekkin and Birdin wrote:
Thanks for the info, everyone. For Trekkin’, the camera function is not important. I’m curious about the waypoint issue Michael mentioned. How many can the 450 accept? I can get tons in the 300, so I’d think the 450 would be just fine. Maybe he just needs to get the same one as mine and save the extra money for gas!
I don’t know, all I know is I’m up against my limit. When I try to set a new waypoint I have to delete an old one.
This may have something to do with the fact that GSAK adds child waypoints? And they don’t get deleted when I change the GPX file? I have no idea but it’s a PITA.
Also, I have had problems with it hanging with more than 1000 caches on the unit, total, regardless if its in multiple GPX files.
YMMV…
On the Left Side of the Road...Garmin field notes feature works too.
On the Left Side of the Road...Can I mention letterboxing here? Well yes I can because it’s my post.
Letterboxing has no–or at least a very limited–online “experience.” So, you can plant a letterbox, and often have no idea what people think about the find until you go out and look at the physical log book. In fact, it’s not uncommon for letterboxers to eschew the online experience entirely and not keep track of their finds online where everyone can see them and marvel at what amazing players they are with their high numbers and whatnot. (Imagine that!!!)
My point of bringing this up being: be happy we have an online venue at all, enjoy the good logs you receive, and ignore the lazy loggers and cut-and-paste knuckleheads.
(Yes, I know this is me writing this, and the irony is not lost…hey, a guy can change! 😯 )
On the Left Side of the Road...Oh lordy, I busted out laughing on that.
Gosh I miss true ALRs.
So have we taken this thread off topic enough from canoes?
On the Left Side of the Road...I used to get a little annoyed about crappy or cut and paste logs. However, over time I have realized that “.” is the most intelligent thing that some people can muster to say. It’s the new tolerant and understanding me. Ohhhhhhhhmmmmm….
On the Left Side of the Road...I have the 450 and the 550. The 550 is much better. 450 has limits on # of waypoints and I run up against this when loading PQs with caches with multiple child points.
Also, the 450 has a hard time with large GPX files.
Add the lack of camera, and I wouldn’t have bought a 450, knowing what I know now.
On the Left Side of the Road...I’m putting my ashes in an ammo can and placing a geocache on my headstone.
On the Left Side of the Road...@benny7210 wrote:
God grant me the serenity to accept the people I cannot change, the courage to change the one I can, and the wisdom to know it’s me. ~Author unknown, variation of an excerpt from “The Serenity Prayer” by Reinhold Neibuhr
Enjoyed your post, thanks for putting it out.
On the Left Side of the Road...Yeah, I don’t cache, I just cause a ruckus in the forums. I’m not dead yet, but when I die I’m going to be buried in the public easement so geocachers can come visit me.
Anyhoo, glad you found a waterborne conveyance.
On the Left Side of the Road...Disabilities have nothing to do with the original topic. I am talking about cache placements that alarm or concern the public and have a potential to put an end to the game, and/or that we as an association collectively agree are bad to the image of the game.
On the Left Side of the Road...As cheeto says, if not us, then who? Groundspeak has said it is not them.
We had another thread here on “what will kill the game” that started with the premise that TFTC logs will kill the game. However I don’t buy that, because what kind of log do you expect on a guardrail cache?
What will kill the game will either happen from inside out or outside in. From inside out, what will stop people from playing it? That will have to be when it is no longer rewarding. Is there really this large community of cachers who enjoy driving thru city neighborhoods and parking lots as DJ says? If so, they don’t seem to be represented here.
What will kill the game from the outside in is when the people in charge of saying yes or no to cache placements–land managers–start saying no and caches go bye bye.
Isn’t this what we are trying to avoid? Isn’t this why we have worked with the DNR to establish guidelines? Isn’t this why we keep trying too work with the DOT? And have community liaisons? And educate law enforcement?
Groundspeak has clearly shown it likes to have its cake and eat it too…to control the publication of caches while enforcing no standards around quality and apparently giving reviewers no discretion to do so themselves.
If not us, then who?
I fear in five years many of us will be saying “I wish we would have…”
(the above ramblings may set the record for rhetorical questions in one post…)
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