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Welcome aboard fellow Eagle Scout…
Your method makes me think of a time or two I was directing the better half to a cache in the field while I was at my PC zoomed in on sat maps and she was on her cell phone on the trail. “Ok, now you should see a bench, and it looks like it’s in the third three to your left.” And of course who needs a GPSr in a cemetery if there’s a cedar tree in sight. 😈
You might want to add letterboxing to your geocaching activities if you already haven’t–100% No-Tech!
On the Left Side of the Road...@Team Deejay wrote:
I think you will find this as the primary reason why many of the “old-timers” have stopped playing. It just wasn’t fun for them to have to filter out all the parking lots, guardrails, etc. to find the hidden gems they were looking for.
Well said. We’re certainly not old timers but we drive past many new caches in our daily travels that we have no interest in stopping to look for because we know just what they are. There’s nothing wrong with those caches, we’ve just lost interest in that type as a general rule. To each their own.
What I wonder–worry?–is whether “high density” caching will benefit the game in the long run–if it has staying power. Is there a point at which driving from cache to cache to cache gets old? I think we’ve all seen the logs–“Out on a numbers run today and I don’t really remember this cache but I’m sure it was great, TFTC!” Is there a point where people look at their little stats bar and wonder, “Why am I doing this again?”
Again, to each their own and thus far the game has flavors for all types of players. It will just be interesting to look back in a few years to see where the evolution of the game goes and what its impact is.
On the Left Side of the Road...I believe the existence of power trails is a growing trend, as evidenced by the emergence of trails from New Brunswick to New Mexico. In keeping with the topic of this thread, I don’t know if there’s some point at which people say “enough is enough,” but as long as this game keeps track of “scores” and people are motivated to set the new “world record,” I don’t see any reason it would diminish.
As has been said, correctly, many times, there is something in this game for everyone. As a cache finder you can simply choose not to hunt caches in these trails, but I do think power trails are changing the character of the game, which is either good or bad depending on what type of caching you like to do.
You can probably guess which side of the fence I stand on here. I would only add that geocaching continues to bill itself as a “high tech treasure hunting game,” with the marketing of the site, and the images chosen for it, highlighting beautiful spots, excited children opening large cache containers, and so on. “Come find 1,000 filmstrip canisters spaced 528 feet apart on the shoulder of the road” doesn’t carry the same appeal, but that’s just one man’s opinion.
On the Left Side of the Road...Some good ideas have percolated up. I like cheeto’s checker idea. I also love the “let me know if photos have been uploaded” idea and I’ve asked for that before.
I am amazed at how many people post without bothering to fully read what the idea/thread is about, but as zuma mentioned elsewhere, you don’t have to pass an IQ test…
On the Left Side of the Road...Sorry, I meant “attribute” and not “icon.” 30 lashes with a wet logbook for me.
It is under “livestock” in the “Conditions” section and looks like this:
On the Left Side of the Road...Also a new “field puzzle” icon.
And I see someone’s been busy with the feedback feature.
On the Left Side of the Road...@seldom|seen wrote:
My ground rule is this. If you can physically put your hand on my final caches, than you can log a find, particularly if you think getting into the cache may damage it.
That’s a sound, common-sense practice in my opinion. Of course it is complicated by the fact that some of your caches look like random garbage by design…at least one that I can think of… 😛
On the Left Side of the Road...From our own experience—
If you find an open ammo can sans contents at the posted coordinates…what do you do?
What about a camo-taped PB jar in the same circumstances when the cache listing says that’s what you’re looking for?
What about the remains of a camo-taped matchstick container (again described in the cache listing) that got hit by the park mower with no paper left to sign?
Yep, we claimed a find in all those circumstances and never thought twice about it. Replaced logs where we could but not always. Looking back, maybe we ended up rehabbing someones letterbox…or something else.
Some communication with the cache owner if there are any questions also goes a long way.
On the Left Side of the Road...In my book if you find the cache remnants you claim the find, puzzle or no puzzle. Same difference. Point is, you found the cache or what’s left of it. If the cache is gone missing, gone muggled, gone archived, or just gone, then there is nothing there for you to find, so no soup for you.
Just one man’s opinion…..
On the Left Side of the Road...I’ve never compared a physical log to an online log and don’t intend to do so in the future.
Despite the rules, common sense should prevail here and if you find cache remnants but the log is AWOL you should be able to claim the find. If you find a wet log wad or a frozen logsicle and forgot your Cache Aid kid you should be able to claim the find. If you found where the cache was attached but the cache is missing….your choice. For me it’s a hollow victory to log online unless we find at least some part of the cache. In any of these cases a friendly note to the CO with your intentions is usually all it takes.
Well anyway, that’s just my opinion because the rules say otherwise, and I had intended to refrain from giving any opinions on topics in these forums and stick to facts, so I think I’ll go wash the car.
On the Left Side of the Road...The directive of the powers that be is that the physical cache log must be signed in order to log a find and, furthermore, that it is the responsibility of the cache owner to ensure that finds are valid and enforce the signature requirement. A search of these forums will find comments to that effect.
Whether the cache owner chooses to enforce said requirement and fulfill said responsibility is of course another matter altogether.
On the Left Side of the Road...http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx
“Logging of All Physical Caches”
Geocaches can be logged online as Found once the physical log has been signed.
On the Left Side of the Road...That will do nicely, thanks Mr. Puffin.
On the Left Side of the Road...Is there a site/program that can do a D/T combination grid? I currently use just cachestats but it shows D and T separately, not in combination.
On the Left Side of the Road...@sweetlife wrote:
IMO I think we should just get rid of it. It’s a southern Wisconsin popularity contest.
I had thought so as well but it’s not as bad as I first believed. In the past year there have been two caches from Green Bay win, one from the Wausau area, and one from north of Crandon, so if you cut the state in half, 1/3 of the COTM winners have been from northern WI. I suspect if you look at the cache density in the state that may reflect a similar breakdown.
A bigger issue–and one that might also address any southern WI concern–is addressing the “recency” issue. Requiring a cache to be in place and in good repair for X months before being eligible, as suggested here, is a great idea.
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