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Let’s see… since the picnic location is exactly four minutes from our house – yeah… I think we’ll be there!
Pancakes for lunch? SURE!!!!
We’ve been Magellan owners from Day 1 and are pretty happy with the line. I did the research last summer between the Meridian Gold and the SportTrak Map. I went with the Meridian because of the expandibility using an SD Card. I’ve been pretty happy with the Meridian and it has been a good unit for us…
P.S. When I saw that Lil Otter uses a Meridian Gold – I was sold!!!!
Jeff – You are truly my hero. Good stuff and interesting data. For those of us who are visual learners (I think most geocachers are) this is a handy display and will probably aid the board in planning future gatherings!
Glad to see Green Bay has a healthy base!
Yeah – there really are a lot of great bike trails in Wisconsin and Illinois. I don’t have coords from my GPS but I pulled these coords from my Mapsend TOPO software – might not be 100% accurate.
My favorite Wisconsin (and I’m sure many others as well) is the Elroy Sparta. A beautiful bike trail with three railroad tunnels to bike through. Most “Rails-to-Trails” bike trails can be a little dull – but this one is GREAT! There are a couple of caches listed right on the trail. Parking coords: Not even able to get close on this… You can go to either town and easily find the starting points – they are well marked
Another beautiful bike trail is the Bearskin Trail which originates in Minocqua and goes south skirting (out-of-sight) Hwy 51. Amy and I bike that one last summer and had a beautiful trip. Parking coords: 45* 52.28′ 89* 42.81′
As for mountain biking – I grew up biking “Waterfall Glen” forest preserve near Lemont, IL as a child. Beautiful terrain and a nice mix of meadows, prarie savannah as well as wooded areas. Lot’s of great caches in the area. Parking coords: (this is where I park but you can follow the forest preserve signs as well to other parking areas) 41* 42.52′ 87* 57.61′ Also try any of the forest preserve trails in the Palos Park District. GREAT caching there!
Another mountain biking spot would be “Baird Creek” in Green Bay. (Home to “What’s Next?”‘s Wilderness Loop cache series as well as a few others). Beautiful (but tough) mountain biking trails over a variety of terrain. Parking coords: 44* 30.271′ 87* 56.547’ (These are correct…)
Happy biking.
Unfortunately, the Paddlers are going to have to sit this one out. August booked up pretty quickly and we are actually hosting a big campout at our cottage that weekend.
The bruschetta, white wine and pancake flippers are all safely packed away until next year’s campout. See you all then!
Jeff & Amy
I can definitely live with those requirements. Those are more than reasonable. That’s the way they should all work in my opinion. Brian and Ken – nice job in your negotations and really paving the way for the Association. What a great relationship you guys are developing.
Good stuff…
Looks like the Sugar River is pretty high right now…
http://wi.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv/?site_no=05436500&PARAmeter_cd=00065,00060We’ll bring the canoe!
Wow…. I’m thinking that Amy and I are probably “in” for this event. Looks like fun.
If the WGA Picnic is held in August it looks like we won’t be able to make it any weekend. Just how things work – our summers book up pretty quickly. However, July 10th is open for us….
How do you guys want people to respond officially? We’ll know more in another week or two…
Jeff
Sounds like a variety of opinions out there. That’s good – as a teacher I always encourage healthy debate in my classroom.
I’ve been known to be a bit of an alarmist. I guess only time will tell. Hindsight will eventually tell us if increased regulation at this stage of the game would have made sense.
Let’s hope that the self-policing continues to suffice.
That is only if the rule is based on “time”. Perhaps the policy could be that the cache must be relocated after a certain number of “visits” in lieu of a certain period of time?
For example – a cache is located in a perfect spot on a mountain or under the ocean and only gets 1-2 visits a year. Based on that, it should be able to remain almost indefinitely. However, if you have a cache in a state park that is off the beaten path (but over time a beaten path has been formed directly to the cache) then the rule would be worded that the cache can remain for the first 30-40 visits then it has to be relocated.
My wife and I travel to the Boundary Waters every year and love the remote feeling of wilderness that we find there. One thing the National Forest Service does is shut down portage trails and relocate campsites from time to time – in order to let things grow back.
Sometimes I worry that we don’t have an “endgame” strategy for many of our geocaches. There are so many out there that I’m concerned that we need to start putting limits on things.
I liked the suggestion that one can only place a cache after finding 30 or so first? I also like the idea of perhaps limited each team to maybe 10 caches. That would force teams to either keep up their current caches or retire old ones in order to place new ones.
The other idea, albeit somewhat drastic, would be to stop teams from logging new finds if they have their own caches that are in disarray. There are a lot of times I’ll see a cache owner post a note (after several posts claiming wet logbook or missing cache) saying that they are going to come check on the cache in a few weeks. Well, a few months go by and they don’t check on their cache. In the meantime, they’ve logged 30 new finds.
I know that I probably sound pretty harsh to some, but I really worry about the public’s (and the state government’s) perception of geocaching.
What do others think? Maybe I’m way out of line?
Agreed 100% I wasn’t talking about this specific cache at all. I was responding to Cathunter’s point about the need for a policy. There are few people who have done as much for the hobby as have Trudy & the Beast. I didn’t mean to disparage them at all.
In hindsight, I see how that could have been read in that way though.
I guess that’s just more beer I’ll have to pass out at the next gathering. (My way of apologizing for poorly written forum posts…)
Jeff
I agree that we need to come up with some type of policy on archiving caches.
1. There are far too many forgotten, soaking wet tupperware containers out there.
2. How many caches have been out there for 2+ years? How many worn out paths to these caches are there? How about some mandatory turnover?
I think that the above two issues are what is going to kill this hobby in the public’s eye.
We need to not only “archive” old, abandoned caches but we also must delegate WGA members to go out and clear them out of the woods. I’m worried that we do too much “archiving” and then leaving some old tupperware or ammo box out in the wild…
I looked at the Brillig map the other day and couldn’t believe how full it is of caches… I realize that archived caches show up there as well – but have they been cleaned out? Also – how many posts do we see out there where “log book is full” or “log book is soaking wet”? Let’s adopt those caches or clean them out entirely. I worry that we sometimes are doing more damage than good…
Just my two cents worth…
Jeff
Nice job on the first 100. That’s the big one in my book!
Congrats! 100 is the big one!
“What’s Next?” has a pretty good story about caching that involved a tree falling on their car…
Not that it has anything to do with caching, but I was lying on the ground kissing my high school girlfriend about ten years ago and I rolled her onto a bee’s nest. That was a tough one to explain to her parents! We broke up about a year later… HA HA!!!
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