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High Cliff is one of the few parks in the state that fits our needs for a campout. As you remember, it was a nice spot when we held the campout there a number of years ago.

I’d rather see us revisit the park for a campout, and not a picnic.

I think placing permanent caches for a WGA event is a bad idea. We’ve always promised the parks that ALL our caches would be removed at the end of an event. This has gone a long way in promoting good relationships with the parks we visit.

I think that hiding permanent caches for events will have a negative long lasting effect on our ability to get permission for events.

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Very cool !

I also saw the recent articles in the Scouting Magazine.

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I am not an artistic person, and I don’t know crap about design and marketing tactics.

With that being said, I personally liked the Jacey submission. In fact, IF the whole “G” thing was missing from the design, I probably would still prefer it. I simply liked the design, and the “G” had absolutely nothing to do with it.

When planning WGA events there is a whole lot of work to do, and too few of people doing it. Sometimes we just don’t have the time or manpower to foresee ever possibly problem, and have a referendum to seek guidance. We need to make command decisons, and hopefully they are the right.

I truely appreciate all the designs we received for the T-shirt logo. We had some really cool submissions. The design is just one portion of the whole project. There is coordination with the print shop, setting up the WGA store, accepting and processing orders, receiving shipment, and organization the distribution.

The brunt of this project’s work seems to fall on a select few people. Perhaps we can solicit the help of our more artistic members to serve on a t-shirt committee for each campout? Just an idea, but I know it doesn’t solve this issue this year.

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I don’t know folks… We’ve had many t-shirts over the past few years. None of them ever turned into our logo, and I can think of a few that are worthy. I understand the concerns, but lets take it one step at a time. It’s a very nice t-shirt design 🙂

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It seems like a simple solution would be to still allow a “found it” log for event caches.

For those who want to log temps as finds, they can leave a “found it” log.

For those who consider events strictly social occasions and don’t want to log temps, they can leave an “attended” log.

Unfortunately, I think the temp caches at events lost acceptance years ago because of some of the loose definitions of a cache. On the other hand, I’ve never had a problem logging temps at WGA events. Each WGA event temp cache usually rivals or exceeds most regular caches I’ve found.

I think it may open a whole new can of worms if Groundspeak created a “temporary cache find”. Would this be a log type, or a cache type? This might work if it were strictly a log title. On the other hand, it would be an absolute nightmare if the volunteer reviewers had to start accepting temporary cache submissions. This would be WAY too much of a burden to place on the Reviewers.

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Good information.

Thanks for the update.

~Brian

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I have to wonder if the increased popularity of geocaching is causing increased oil demand? Perhaps all the people chasing tupperware are driving up the demand of gasoline?

Maybe we can get OPEC to sponsor our events?

🙂 🙂 🙂

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Thanks for the link. I was just looking for Topo Zone last night, and noticed they require a paid membership. Not worth it in my opinion, especially with my mapping software at home.

This website should fill the void.

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@tyedyeskyguy wrote:

Can anyone tell us which campsite has been reserved for the group. I mean what number?

We’ll of course be hanging out at the group site, but would prefer to retire to a private site. Unless you all want to hear me snore! 😆

Group sites “C” and “D”.

Bri

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I located a cool website, AFTER, we posted the design contest. Check out 99designs.com.

This site lets you post a design contest, and attact designers from across the nation to compete. We’d have to be willing to fork out some prize money in order to attract submissions, so it will cost us some money.

Since we already have the WGA contest underway, this isn’t an option at this time. It is an option though.

Check out the website. It’s pretty cool

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That’s another good point that Tie brings up.

Outdoor warning sirens are for people “outdoors”. They are not expected to alert people inside their homes. Modern technologies have replaced the old outdoor warning systems. When you hear the outdoor siren, you should tune to local media to see why it’s sounding. DO NOT CALL 911, police, or fire to find out why it’s going off !!!

Of course if you have a weather radio, you will know about the situation long before you hear the siren activated.

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Thanks for sharing the info AuntieNae.

This is a good time to remind everyone that each household should have a “weather detector”. Much like every house should have smoke detectors, weather alert radios (weather detector) will sound an alarm when severe weather is eminent for your area.

If you don’t have one, you can purchase a weather detector (radio) for starting around $30.00. Look for a weather radio with S.A.M.E technology. This lets you program specific counties that you want to receive watches/warning for. When a watch/warning is issued for your selected county, an alarm will sound, and a message will appear on the radio. This is especially useful for weather approaching while you are sleeping.

Every home and public building should have one!

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@sweetlife wrote:

Here is a idea for the T shirt that I thru together

Barry of sweetlife

That’s beautiful. I love it 🙂

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I’m enjoying this thread.

First off, I think it is a good idea that we come prepared for emergencies. As a former EMT, I’ve brought my trauma box and airway/oxygen kit to the WGA events. Thankfully, we have never needed it.

I’m concerned about liablility issues if we advertise that we provide medical support. If we tell people that we will provide a certain level of care, we better be well prepared.

I think a better way, perhaps, would be to develop a list of trained attendees that may be able to help during an emergency. If there was a problem, they could answer the call for help until local emergency reponders arrive.

Having an AED is a good idea, but would be a challenge for an outdoor event. It would be most useful near the base camp (shelter) where the majority of people gather. It would be hard to get the AED to the scene if someone coded out on some remote trail. If the AED were mounted on an ATV, we would have a better chance of saving a life. We need a way to get the AED into the field/woods. I wonder if the DNR would let us bring an ATV for emergency response????

Hosting a CPR training would be a great community service project!

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I don’t know that the WGA has to be devoted to any specific brand of gps games. lets face it, geocaching.com is the microsoft of gps games. Other games exist, but the vast majority of people seem to be “Geocaching”.

Although I would still prefer to geocache “under the radar”, I fully support the rules in place. These rules are not created simply to keep the man down, they are created to solve problems, and add safety.

For example:
– Geocachers get arrested for hiding and hunting caches hiden on RR right-of-way. Rule: Don’t place caches on right-of-way! No brainer in my opinion.

– Sure you can geocache in my yard, just don’t trample my beautiful garden. Rule: No geocaches in SNA’s.

Regarding the 528′ rule:
I remember in the early days of geocaching, we would frown if someone would put a cache in the same park as ours. Heck, can’t you find a different park to place a cache! I remember one geocache owner emailing a guy and telling him off because the guy would visit cache “A”, then hide his own cache somewhere else in the same park. Boy, now we allow them every 528′ 🙂 I guess the rules are too loose on this one!

So in recap:
-The winter storm watch has been cancelled.
-Sure, the WGA can represent GPS gamers of all kinds. Why not?
-Rules address past problems. We need to learn from our mistakes and make sure they don’t happen again.
-I’ve never found a Navicache, Terracache, googlecache, or Ubercache.

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