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I would move the cache ASAP, and put it far away from this known spot. Concealing the cache better may prevent further unintentional finds, but this guy knows about it and is bound to talk. He’ll probably show a few people or keep checking back on it. It is bound to keep causing problems. If this is indeed near his bow hunting spot, there is probably going to be more confrontations. The guy may get tired of seeing more cachers then deer and get rid of the cache.
It’s true that pheasant hunting has daily closures at 2PM in this area, but all other hunting is still open for the rest of the day.
I’m really looking forward to finding this cache myself. Although I had planned on bringing my dog and Citori along to do some pheasant hunting, perhaps I should bring my mine sweeper and kevlar bomb suit instead .
But seriously, I would find another spot before it disappears completely.
BTW, what happened to the midi music on the cache page? I liked it.
[This message has been edited by GrouseTales (edited 12-16-2002).]
I still feel that Lord Of The Caches is one of my all time favorite caches. A lot of work went into creating these caches. I found it shortly after it was created. At the time, Fields of Gold were indeed fields of gold. They were about 80 acres of grass fields filled with yellow dandelions.
The only problem I had was with stage one, I started on the wrong side of the river. I could see the cache, but I had to back track and go to the other side of the river.
Since stage two was named Fields of Gold, It made sense at the time and saved me from trudging through the swamp, as many others have.
It’s unfortunate that the final position got swamped. You can tell the area is easily flooded and it’s positioning would have held it under water.
If I remember reading right, the cache placer Bill-bo, moved out of stated. Maybe one of us should adopt it and to keep the Trilogy alive.
I have developed a couple cameras which had been out all winter. I didnt notice any problems at all. I found a bigger problem was not having a flash on the camera. I ended up with a lot of dark grainy photos, mostly from dusk/dawn photos.
I think we should limit it to COTM winners for the reasons mentioned above.
In a couple years, we can put together a cache of the Decade. This would be limited to cache of the year winners .
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That’s a great idea Steve.
Could a person vote for any cache, or would they be limited to winners of “cache of the month”?
I would think the choices should come from the pool of monthy winners.
I once offered to hold Ken’s hand and walk him to the 1st stage. He refused because he has publicly proclaimed that he will never search for this again . I think he just doesnt want to get kicked out of his little club he created (hee hee).
Anyway, it’s going to be nearly impossible to find with any snow cover. I would bet the leaf cover from this fall has probably buried it also.
You are on the right track. I think everyone has researched what they will be looking for, but it’s not in one of those fake dog crap key holders. It’s very tough to find even when you are standing right on top of it.
I have digital picture of what your looking for. I would be glad to sell it to you. I accept Paypal
Darn, I wish I could make it. Sounds like a lot of fun. I will be up at my cabin hoping to help thin the deer herd. If we do good enough this weekend, I will be able to go to Chicago for the event.
I want to know how the heck do I delete a photo?
I recently uploaded a few photos and the turned out HUGE. I wanted to delete them but couldnt find a delete function.
[This message has been edited by GrouseTales (edited 11-20-2002).]
B.O.L.O. (Be on the lookout)
If there really is a serial cache remover, it’s time for geocachers to become more vigilant.
I’m amazed at how many times I have run into fellow cachers while cache hunting. Sometimes I only see their car parked in that special spot.
I have long been in the habit of writing down vehicle discriptions and license plates of cars parked nearby. I started this practice long before geocaching, mostly after my car got broken into. This doesn’t have as much merit if you are in a parking lot with lots of cars around. In rural settings, it may come in handy.
If you see a car you suspect belongs to a Geocacher, write down the plate and vehicle description. Take a casual peek in the window as you are walking past it. Do you see any caches in the back seat? If you bump into a cacher, strike up a conversation and see who they are. If they are coming back to their car with a cache, you’ll be glad you wrote down the plate, especially if the cache turns up missing.
If you have an solid leads, contact me with the info and I will be glad to investigate further.
[This message has been edited by GrouseTales (edited 11-12-2002).]
Wow, the article looks great. I recognize the photo of Doug as being one I gave the DNR at our meeting. I was surprised they used it. Doug got a kick out of it
Hmmm, now I know why the cache was called Lion Den. I had now idea that this area was so significant. This cache still ranks as one of my favorite locations. I love the gorge and all the fallen trees with the tributary running through it. Cool spot!
I also like the Cows definition of a Geocache. What if we took out the 1st line which states it is a small to medium sized container. Size is relative and probably doesnt matter. We could also remove the line about it being hidden under a tree, bark, or rock. We could just say it is hidden from public site. Here is what it would like with those 2 lines removed:
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A “Geocache” is a weather resistant container which is hidden from public sight and whose location is published on the Internet for other people to find. The containers serve the purpose of providing a place to store small trade items and/or logbooks. The intent of a Geocache is often to bring the cache seeker to a scenic park or interesting place, and to provide a quality outdoor experience. Geocaches are intentionally placed by their owners and are NOT abandoned property. The owner is responsible for its maintainence and upkeep.
A couple comments and suggestions about the draft:
1. It may be beneficial to include a definition of what a Geocache is. I know there are thousands of variations of a Geocache, some type of definition may prevent
problems in the future. Somewhere in the definition we should include that a Geocache is NOT abandoned property. I’m not sure exactly how we would word it. Most laws and regulations have a defination of the activity they are governing. Example are boating regulations define a boat, motorboat, pwc. Hunting regulations define what a firearm is, etc.
Here are some of my thoughts:
A “Geocache” is any container, marker, or item that is hidden by a person and whose location is published for other people to find. The intent of a Geocache is often to bring a the cache seeker to a scenic park, interesting place, and to provide a quality outdoor experience. Geocaches are intentionally placed by a person and are NOT abandoned property. Geocache containers take many different shapes and sizes. Most containers serve the purpose of providing a weather resistant place to store small items and/or notebooks. Typical containers are metal ammo boxes, “Tupperware” type containers, and/or other waterproof boxes. A “Microcache” is a small container, generally the size of a film container. A “virtual” cache brings a searcher to a preexisting object at the specified coordinates, such as a sign or monument. There is no actually container placed at a “virtual” Geocache. A “Muliticache” is a series of tags, markers, or caches that a person must find in order to find the final Geocache container.I’m sure we could word the above better, but without a definition, a park ranger may only accept one type of container as “Geocache.” By including the statement that this is NOT abandoned property, it may prevent the DNR from actually claiming that a cache is litter and citing a person for same. By getting to accept this statement up front, it may help us out in the long run.
2. I also had some problems with the wording of section 3.1 Illegal Drugs and weapons. Perhaps we could switch it to word “illegal Weapons or drugs.” I would
not want the DNR to be notified every time a little pocket knife is left in the cache. This type of attention may look bad for Geocaching in the parks. If the DNR keeps getting notified about knifes being placed in a cache, how long do you think they will allow caching? If we say “Illegal weapons or drugs,” it makes it sound more like firearms and such. I agree with the statements that if illegal firearms or drugs are found in or near a cache, the authorities should be notified.3. In section 3.2, how about we make it 500 feet? We could word it that if you move it beyond 500 feet, you need to seek permission to move it. If moved inside of a 500 ft radius, you should update the park manager with it’s current location, but new permission is not needed. Prior approval to move a cache within 500 is not necessary?
4. The WGA now has the Administrative authority to archive caches. I suggest we
word the policy to include us. In other words, if the DNR has a problem with a cache
or needs helping archiving the cache or notifying the cache owner, the DNR may
contact the WGA to request assistance.5. We still have the lingering issues of after hour/out of season notifications, and
preexisting caches. There should probably be a grace period for cachers to
notify park personal of a preexisting cache. The cache owner should contact the park manager advising it’s existence and location. If the park has a problem with the cache, they can work it out with the cache placer.I’ve picked up a couple side jobs to help raise some money to buy Steve’s Goldwing
I’m up another ride! I have to work weekends for the next few months As long as I’m home by 1PM I’m game.
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