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@beccaday wrote:

I don’t think it’s a good idea to replace a container that’s missing if the CO isn’t active anymore. I think it’s time to archive in that case. Only if the cache is something extraordinary and the person replacing it is going to take measures to adopt it should it be replaced.

That’s EXACTLY how I feel!

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I think it’s good to carry repair items, if there’s a cache to repair. However, if the original cache is nowhere to be found, then it’s time to archive. I’ve encountered numerous caches over time in which a well-meaning cacher took it upon themselves to replace a cache when in fact they should have logged a DNF because the cache was still there. Then, when Kim and I would chance upon it, we would find not one but two caches. Bad form.

So so we carry repair items: almost always, in my legendary backpack that has everything except the kitchen sink. Especially for lonelies. Should we? Yes and no. Yes only if: A) We found the cache or remnants of the cache. B) The cache owner is letting us adopt it. C) The CO has extenuating circumstances why they cannot currently do their own maintenance and has told you ahead of time it’s OK to replace it. But then you run the risk of the problem described in paragraph one.

Here’s two examples.

1. Earlier this summer, we went to find a lonely cache near Rhinelander that numerous DNF’s had been reported. Another cacher went there the week before us, and with the CO’s permission, replaced it with a new container. They got permission ahead of time, the cache is now in play again; game on. We got the smiley and some LCG points.

2. A cache had been reported presumably muggled, with scattered pieces of the log sheet and cache container strewn about (it wasn’t a lonely). I went there with a replacement container, fully stocked with swag and a new log book, to replace the destroyed cache. I couldn’t find any parts of the log or the container. So I did not place my replacement cache there. I’ll gladly repair/replace a damaged cache, but if it’s completely missing, the CO really needs to replace, archive, or designate someone to do their work for them. The cache was mercifully archived shortly after, which is good because there wasn’t anyone in place to keep up its maintenance.

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I solved it but don’t want to give away the answer until I go for the FTF.

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@Mister Greenthumb wrote:

That’s a really nice shot of a good lookin’ cacher!

I had to do extensive Photoshop touchup to make him look that good, but with the end result I have to agree with you! 😛

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Don’t forget to duck…

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No phone-a-friends allowed until after the first to solve.

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In many cases the trackable owner is no longer active, and if their TB has gone missing for a year but still shows as listed in your cache, it seems to be a courteous thing to do for the CO to then mark it as missing. Nobody else can do it except the CO (if the bug owner is inactive), and your cache is now accurately reporting the status of the cache contents as far as bugs go. Interesting, I seem to be in the minority on this one. 😕

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And I remember Wendy from way back when she only had like 220 days in a row. Congrats Wendy!

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I generally agree; it can get annoying. Here’s what one can do:

1. In your found it log, you can state that it’s missing. For responsible CO’s that’s all you need to do.
2. You can email the cache owner directly.
3. You can post a “needs maintenance” log regarding missing trackables – I’d only do that one if it’s been missing for a long time with no response from the CO.
4. If all else fails, you can email the trackable owner to let them know and they can mark it as missing from their end.

I’ve done 1, 2, & 3. Not sure if I’ve ever done #4.

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Me too!

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Thank you for serving and protecting our nation!

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@CacheNoTrace wrote:

3 Racketeer coins in the same cache! How many times will this happen????? http://coord.info/GC40ZHK

That’s pretty cool!

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Way to go, you’ll be at 5,010 before you know it! 😉

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Went there yesterday, just for 10 minutes as the sun was setting. Didn’t expect to get very far in 10 minutes on RB’s new hide at that location. We were on our way to attend a play and thought we’d do some prelim scouting. We’ll be back. Oh yes. We will be back. 8)

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Wow, what a great topic. It’s nice to see posts at this thread from some of those who have been around a long time.

Here’s the June 2010 offering:

There are 1,109,670 active caches and an estimated 4-5 million geocachers worldwide. In the last 30 days, there have been 4,011,183 new logs submitted.

I feel like such a newbie again!
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