[Jay Mills]

Dang no Jeep in my mail box today. Maybe tomorrow. Hope so anyway, don’t want to have to wait til I find one in a cache or more likely an event because it will likely be a long wait based on history.

[Jay Mills]

There is a 5-star terrain cache somewhere in SE wisconsin that is underwater near an old dam. Forgive me for not citing the cache I could not locate it for reference. It states on that cache page (and I am paraphrasing) that scuba gear is required, not to dive alone, and that it is a dangerous area due to rebar and other underwater hazards of some sort. Now along comes a yahoo that thumbs his nose at the warnings and decides he can do this cache alone with his mediocre “snorkelling” equipment or no equipment and gets into trouble.

Now we have a tree with a 5-star terrain cache high up in it. The owner states plainly that is is dangerous and states that climbing gear should be used. He also states very clearly not once but twice not to attempt this cache alone and to bring someone along. Again the same yahoo comes along, thumbs his nose at the warnings and decides to attempt this cache alone without any climbing gear and gets himself into trouble.

What do these two caches have in “common”?

It shouldn’t need to be stated but it’s “common sense”. Let’s heed the warnings, they are there for a reason. Possibly of more importance is to know our personal limitations before attempting a cache to avoid a serious or life threatening injury. The time to think is before the attempt not during or after when we might find ourselves past the point of no return so to speak..

I won’t address the environmental impact of the tree climbing and leave that for another thread as that isn’t the thrust of the OP which was a safety concern.

Also mentioned was the concern for kids climbing. While a legitimate concern I would have to ask: Where is the parental guidance? Like any “potentially” hazardous activity such as boating, hunting, trekking, geocaching, etc it is the parents responsibility to mentor their children in the do’s and dont’s of the activity and teach/help them to discover their personal limitations along the way. We can teach alot by example. Again just common sense.

Let’s think before we attempt that next difficult cache and be personally honest about our abilities to complete it safely. A serious or life threatening injury just isn’t worth the smiley we get for the “Found It”.

For the record I would leave the cache in question stand as it is. The owner has been responsible and up front about the hazards and warnings. I will add though that if it was my cache I might have made it a members only cache to weed out over enthusiastic new folks who could get in over their heads quickly; and to reduce the physical impact in the area.

Cache on and cache safe.

[Jay Mills]

@Trekkin’ and Birdin’ wrote:

Trying to figure out my last location and possibly the requirement for it, since I can’t get any car ones close by.

It looks like I’m in a canyon or something just east of the big bowknot bend in the Green River. Off of Hatch Point Road, and I see a crossed off location with “Hatch Point” in the name. I am stumped trying to figure it out. Does this sound familiar to anyone? If so, what was the requirement for it?

I’m too chicken to just go on a chase and take my chances now, since it’s the last one I have to make! TIA

Just take your chances. The location requirements are usually easier then cache requirement. I did 4-5 with location requirement.

That . . . or PM me all the locations you have used to date (if you kept track) and I will tell you what the last location requirement will be.

[Jay Mills]

@3 Hawks wrote:

I went months before I found my first Jeep in “the wild.” Now I run into about one a month.

The Ecorangers “Jeep TB Hotel” has a white, a yellow three green Jeeps waiting to be discovered or traded. It is a Jeep only Hotel, so don’t try to swap any old TB for a Jeep. You don’t need a Jeep TB to visit but you need one to grab a Jeep out.

I thought TB’s were not trade items but I could have read wrong.

[Jay Mills]

I have never found or seen a Jeep in a cache and I have only discovered 2 Jeeps at an event.

[Jay Mills]

@marc_54140 wrote:

It’s not too often you get to do a milestone with another cacher. Being related probably helped in the coordination ….

Congratulations to UGoGirls and GoJeepers. (I never remember who is who though).

Congratz Sue (UGoGirls) and Sara (GoJeepers)!!!! Way to go.

[Jay Mills]

WOOHOO Good Job Jim and Paula. Congratz!

[Jay Mills]

@Lostby7 wrote:

I have two requirements to go and they are both on hold right now…one req is 30 miles away and the other is well over 80 miles away……I wil have both by month end however (providing I find them).

IF you kept track of the locations of the outlaws as you went along I can tell you the final 2 location requirements which might save you some gas and time.

[Jay Mills]

Any experience with Picaridin as a repellent active agent?

[Jay Mills]

Camp at venue, reservation in and paid

[Jay Mills]

Well I stopped teetering I guess. Yesterday I deleted 50 some temps logs I attended (found). Now I am not going to say this is the right way to go for all, I may even be misguided. I will say that FOR ME; if I am honest with myself and am willing to Drive 170 odd miles to do a multi staged cache that takes 5-6 hours to complete and only get 1 find I should be willing to do that with an event as well as a matter of concious.

[Jay Mills]

I started caching this past January and I have logged temp caches from events but I am reconsidering this practice and tettering on the fence and heres why in part:

There is a cache in Joliet, IL GC484C “The Journal” that is a multistaged puzzle that reportedly takes 5-6 hours to complete if all goes well and is over a 10 mile hike in all. This only counts as 1 find and is a 5/5 . I really want to do this cache someday and maybe even get a group and go do it together.

In many ways this reminds me of the WGA campout where I spent at least that many hours out hiking from cache to cache and logged 30 something finds errr “attends”. If I was only allowed 1 find for this I would be ok with that.

I can see both sides of this argument very clearly. I don’t know what side of the fence I will eventually come down on when I stop tettering but I will be able to live with it whatever it may be. Maybe the solution is to have all the temp caches be tied to a new permanent multi cache with expanded stages using the temps. When the event is done leave the permanent multi behind with 2-3-4 stages. 1 attended and 1 find. Just a thought.

[Jay Mills]

Pffft . . . Criminal is just a blowhard purist who is too rigid with his thinking and so myopic with his view that he is easily dismissed. Just shows ya that some peoples lives are sooo disinteresting that they are forced to look at other peoples activities to make it through the day lol. I picture him alone at the computer late at night paging through and policing events, the guy seriously needs a life, or a different hobby that is less stressful, like maybe checkers or something.

[Jay Mills]

Way to go AuntieNae!!!

[Jay Mills]

Still in the discussion stage but would camp at venue.

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