[jerrys dad]

No offense intended, but when you grow up and live in a little town or a small city where violent crime is almost non existant, when you go into a bigger city your more watchful. I do live in a small town but go to school in Milwaukee. There are certain parts I will not go to unless absolutly necessary. I don’t think most people think they are going to get shot, it’s the muggings and car jacking that people are worried about! 😯

[jerrys dad]

I guess I really don’t see us as an “orginization.” I’ll be the first to admit I come out here just to “socialize through the net.” I see us more as a group of individuals who do things on our own. How many of us say: Hi ____ with the WGA,” when we do things. I know I don’t. I’m representing myself and the benifits of talking to DNR wardens, the police, buisness owners and other people, benifit all but are not represented as the WGA.

I wonder if breaking the state into chapters would be the next step. The chapters could meet in their area. This would allow the chapters to meet to best asses how best to represent the WGA in its area of the state. This would also allow for more WGA events as each chapter could put on some and then the WGA as a whole could put on a event(s). I think you might be able to hold new players to the orginization as they could actually see themselves as a part of something. It would allow more help for new players who don’t have someone they know doing it by having local contacts. I know the forums are here but a new person doesn’t always want to go that route. Each area could vote a member to the Board so each part of the state could have representation. Etc…

Just throwing that out on the fly, and since my adreniline is coming down from the thought, I’ll end now!

[jerrys dad]

@thepharmgirl wrote:

@hogrod wrote:

…This is just a social website nothing more, when people make and account and down return its because they have no reason to(nothing of value here) or don’t see the need for the social side of things.

…. for other “anti-social” cachers out there what does the WGA really offer?

The WGA hosts the Lonely Cache Game, which through the helpful spirit of other cachers, helps maintain caches in working order for you to find. It hosts Cache Rescue for to help minimize “geo-junk” out there in the world and lessen our impact on the environment.

The WGA hosts the picnic and campout. They are often present at other events to help educate new cachers about geocaching.

The WGA works with the WI DNR and other park officials to keep geocaching an accepted and allowed practice so that you can cache in our parks.

The WGA website has useful links such as cache hiding guidelines for certain areas. It also contains bookmark lists created by the “social network” to help find caches in a certain area or by a certain type that you may be looking for.

etc etc etc

The above came out of the canidates corners forum.

My question to that would be: If the WGA wasn’t doing these things, how much would it affect most geocachers?

Would there still be events to socialize at? (Thats rhetorical, YES there would be!)

Also how much work has been done by the WGA as a orginization, not members on their own inititive, with the DNR specifically? With what park systems? Was it done recently?

Are we anything but a social network?

[jerrys dad]

I wish they did last year. It was an easy christmas presant for somebody to get me!

[jerrys dad]

GC161PZ

Little Round Top at Gettysburg. It’s an EC but my wife and I agree this is a must see for our family. Not because we had relatives but because of my fasination with the Civil War and the fact she was able to visit here when she cleaned the White House fireplaces in ’04. She said one visit was not enough!

[jerrys dad]

@furfool wrote:

I jut got on GC.com for the first time since last weekend. Man does that thing suck!

Welcome to the club!

[jerrys dad]

@Lostby7 wrote:

@jerrys dad wrote:

Because not all of us have been here that long! Also there were a total of 124 votes cast in that referendum. We have a active membership of 983. The fact that 8% of our membership decided something (voted yes) should tell you this topic will be brought up again!

the ones holding the majority of the events in the state and who generally have the most finds and experience with the geocaching community and it’s going-ons) and it showed a clear message.

This topic and vote dealt only with WGA events not other folks events. If you wish to hold an event you can have as many temps as you like and log them as you see fit.

So the WGA should only care about what those people with the most finds have to say, nice I’ll stop caring till I hit the top 100. Thanks for the lesson!

[jerrys dad]

Because not all of us have been here that long! Also there were a total of 124 votes cast in that referendum. We have a active membership of 983. The fact that 8% of our membership decided something (voted yes) should tell you this topic will be brought up again!

[jerrys dad]

@sweetlife wrote:

Easy answer to solve this problem

Every one who attends the event gets a ticket for the general raffle prizes.

Have a seperate raffle with prizes that are only for those who looked for the temps. Not extra chances in the general raffle.

Perfect solution!

[jerrys dad]

@-cheeto- wrote:

This is why a reward/prize should be given to all teams for doing x number of temps as an activity, like I proposed in my candidate’s corner response. Perhaps, 80% or some threshold. Without a reward/prize (like at the 09 campout), some participants out there wonder, “what’s the point?”

The temp cache activity should not be tied to the general raffle prizes as it seems this causes some to feel the general “door prize” raffle becomes unfair.

If it’s not tied to the general raffle then there is absolutely no way that it would be unfair. At that point, all attendees have the same chance of winning a door prize.

All attendees have a choice to participate in the temp cache activity with an opportunity to “win” something for doing that activity. If you choose to socialize or hunt permanent caches than so be it. You’ve had a fair shot at the door prize and chosen to not go for the temp cache “prize”.

I’m not volunteering for the 2010 camp-out committee but by nature of being voted to the BOD (please?) I would attempt to make it “fair” in the eyes of all members.

Yes somebody who gets it! Would that really be hard to do?

[jerrys dad]

Thank you Jeremy for fixing it and all the other web work you do for us on this site! 🙂

[jerrys dad]

@lone_gunman wrote:

Q1: Did you know about the temp caches prior to the event?
Q2: Did you know that they factored into the drawing before you went looking for the permanent caches?

That is not the point.. the point is making it fair no matter what you do at an event! Your taking one part of this orginazations membership and saying: because you are not willing to do this part of the event, your being punished in this other part. And yes I used punished on purpose because the others are being rewarded!

[jerrys dad]

@lone_gunman wrote:

This is getting tiring. No one stopped you from looking for temps. No one withheld information regarding the drawing. You made the choice.

No the choice is made for us by only giving tickets for temp caches. That decreases my chances in a drawing where I don’t like temps because I choose to go after ones I can get credit for in the same area! This is a simple fix… no more temps at events or at least no extra tickets for anybody.

[jerrys dad]

@Team Black-Cat wrote:

I’m sorry you feel that way, Chris.
I don’t think I’m taking your comments out of context. If you didn’t find temps (I didn’t), you didn’t get a couple extra tickets. If you didn’t attend the event, you didn’t get any tickets. The bottom line is that the tickets were a reward for doing something.

But you received an unfair advantage for doing one specific part of an event that wasn’t a required part of the event. I have brought my son to some of events and he likes getting prizes, so yea it’s is kinda frustrating knowing that you have a smaller chance to make your kid happy that he won a prize. And no, I don’t teach him that he has to win everything but it is nice to win every once in a while!

[jerrys dad]

This is also off thread but I think relates…

All the guy wanted was somone to find his cache he had worked hard on. He hasn’t been here long and he saw somebody trying to give a clue to his cache, that had not been found. He did not know it was a joke thus took it the wrong way. How would everyone feel if they put a cache together and somebody gave a clue wether it was right or wrong. There are new players all the time and some of them might take that clue as fact, not understanding the joke.

Also he is new and wanted to know if his cache was alright or maybe there was a problem with it. Why wasn’t somebody finding it? If Marc had posted his begining statement on why in the other thread and stayed on that topic we all would be over this by now.

Some words to a new player or somebody we do not know well, can be read into different than we meant it to be. I think we all need to remember we are here to grow as a group and help new and old players alike with our hobby. Our words here are the biggest way we do that and we need to be careful of what we write. I know we are just trying to help but sometimes the words we choose can offend and belittle others. I’m sure I probably just did that but I thought we need a reminder.

By the way has anybody PM’d HeliDood to show understanding and explain about us (WGA) here, or are we just posting here?

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