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02/19/2011 at 12:57 am in reply to: Thoughts on the budget repair bill and protests in Madison. #1943243
The single Mom with several children deserves the same amount of sympathy as the home with 2 state employees that have twice as much to lose as a home with one.
We all know people who work for the state. They are different people with different personalities. I don’t agree with all their comments, but look past them and wonder what turns this tale will make in the distant future.Walker was elected with 52% of the vote, by voters looking for a change during a recession. I know many Republicans, other than the Elite 19, that are surprised by his actions toward collective bargaining.
The STATE Democrats weren’t needed for negotiations. Only 1 was needed (for a quorem) to have a vote. I don’t think that “talking” was an option.
ObamaCare? Was voted on in Washington, D.C., and probably done illegally, to boot, according to the many pending court cases on it. And most of the ObamaCare was effective for 2014, not immediately.
I understand the threat of lay-offs. We don’t need anymore, especially teachers. Concessions must be made to keep employment steady.
I doubt anyone has all the answers, but we are all going to feel this thing, one way or another.
Congrats on 6K! Good to see you at the LCG Event. 😀
02/18/2011 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Thoughts on the budget repair bill and protests in Madison. #1943233Correct me if I’m wrong…
Let’s say you are an hourly paid county employee. You have negotiated your pay and benefits and make $40,000/year.
Your supervisor is salaried, making $70,000/year. He/she has the same benefits but higher pay, as well as a higher amount being put in their pension.
How do the salaried employees negotiate their pay and benefits?I’m assuming that they don’t. After the unions have negotiated their packages, the salaried employees are thrown in the group, and basicly, get the same benefits, but higher pay and pension contributions.
In order to cut from the top, you need to change the rules for the workers that negotiated these benefits, that are on the bottom. If this is done, no one will be safe from being hired and terminated on a “needs” basis, hourly OR salaried. Once a budget is established, whether it be State, County, or Municiple, slash and burn can be done at will.
The protest is mainly about a new governor that is acting more like a dictator than a leader of a democracy. There is no simple answer to the deficits that we have. It took years of careless spending, and will take even more years to decrease.
But a governor coming into office and trying to change the face of the state, in just a few short weeks, without feeling the pulse of the people, is walking on thin ice.
It looks like there may be several more days, if not weeks of “game playing” before this is settled.My stand? Changes need to be made in the top, salaried benefit packages. The vested administrators and executives that cash out their millions at early retirement, only to seek employment elsewhere, need to be curtailled, as well. The hourly paid workers need to take concessions, as well, but they need preperation time to make some life style changes.
It will take a minimum of 2 generations to resolve the national deficit, much less state by state. We need to make changes, but they should be discussed by both sides, thus the word “negotiation”.My concern? What happens to seniority if collective bargaining is gone? Job security will be a thing of the past, which will cause family, business. and relationship problems. We may need to implement the same social programs that we cut employment from to balance the budget.
An interesting saga is being played out in Madison. Let’s hope it doesn’t get resolved in the same fashion as the company towns in the coal mining era of the ’30s.
02/18/2011 at 7:55 am in reply to: WI. Hibiscus adds rock-climbing to her resume for #1,500 #1943217Congrats on 1.5K! 😀
We appreciate the praise! With a facility like that, it was much easier to organize the LCG Event. Our own area, plenty of parking, a few diversions to break up the day, and great cachers enjoying some social time. I hope to see a few more nature centers in the years to come. As seldom/seen said, they are great venues for learning something new.
Happy (lonely) Caching! 😀
WTG! Good to see you Saturday! 😀
Congrats! Good to see you Saturday! I noticed the dirt under your fingernails from all the digging, but I thought I would be polite and not say anything.
OOPS! 😯
I’m sure Why-Why? is there. Just dig down in the plowed snow about 6 feet! I let the ladies log it after driving by it several times on the way to the Event venue.
But congrats on your “Ground Hogs Day blizzrd byproduct DNF record” day! Even trying to hide winter-friendly caches is difficult this year!
If they were all like “Pig Out”, you would probably stay home or cache in Chicago anyway! 😉
WTG! 8)
Guess I’ll check back later. Must be my end! 😥
Anyone else getting the “oops” page this morning? 😕
WTG! 8)
02/09/2011 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Digital Dan’s Event-Full Walk on Water to 1600 Multies/5000 #1942877WOW!! Congrats to the multi-man! Glad to help out with a few, including the Christmas Pickle on your way north.
I believe the opposite of multiphobia is…
DIGITAL DAN!! 😀
WTG! 8)
Congrats! We’re half way to ya! 😀
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