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Yes, it was cool that the car was won by a geocacher. I was pulling for Iowa geocachers to get out there and look for the key, figuring they would have an advantage because they search the parks for likely places where it might be hidden. See posts about it here:
http://forums.iowageocachers.org/viewtopic.php?t=1635&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
and here:
http://forums.iowageocachers.org/viewtopic.php?t=1831&highlight=Yes, my Pike Powder Hike (GC3B1) is the oldest cache in Wisconsin.
A semantics note: I, too, used to call it the oldest “active” cache in Wisconsin (because there was one cache listed before Pike Powder Hike that was never found. It has been archived for many years). However, I recently edited the description for Pike Powder Hike to remove the word “active” because it’s not necessary. It’s the oldest cache in the state. Period.
Think about it — If someone is the oldest person in Wisconsin, you don’t call them the oldest “live” person in Wisconsin. When that person dies, the person who was second-oldest becomes the oldest person in Wisconsin, not the oldest “live” person in Wisconsin. The same holds true for the oldest house in Wisconsin. If it burns down or is otherwise demolished, it is no longer the oldest house in Wisconsin. It may have been the “first” house in Wisconsin, but it is no longer the oldest house in Wisconsin.
Just two cents from a writer/editor. 😀
I agree with von zuma meister. This was an interesting idea that never got off the ground. They should have enlisted local, experienced geocachers to place the geocaches. I reviewed a number of Iowa caches submitted back in June that mentioned they were part of this series. Several of them could not be published for one reason or another. One because of a 528ft guideline violation. Others were placed in the Upper Mississippi River Wildlife Sanctuary, which is off limits to geocaches. One was actually in Illinois instead of its namesake Louisa County, Iowa. One violated the vacation cache guideline. The caches had different owner names and location listed but they all used the same ID — IA Mississippi River Parkway Com — which led me to believe a group of people is sharing an ID for this series. I wrote to the ID owner, saying I noticed there were problems with several of the caches and I offered to help answer any questions they might have or to get them in touch with local geocachers who could help them place geocaches for their series. I never heard back. The only one I published in Iowa is GC1D3C6 – Scott County. There was no mention on the cache page that it was part of this series, but a reviewer note said: “All 10 State Parkway Commissions are sponsoring a cache.”
@Da Bloodhound wrote:
You TOTALLY missed the point – but then I thought you might.
You’re trying to turn this into a personal confrontation. I won’t go there.
@Da Bloodhound wrote:
Don’t roll your eyes – they might stick
What color would you like your WGA stylized logo to be, pink?
Sorry, couldn’t resist that one.This is, generally, an outdoor sort of activity, one that is associated with woods and water. Wood ticks, dirt, rocks, getting wet, poison ivy and sweaty are all part of the game. We deserve a bold logo.
As far as history goes 3M, Coke or even GM have revised and re-revised their respective logos over time. Our challenge is to redesign the WGA logo to reflect of the views of our hobby/addiction.
I don’t consider copying another organization’s logo as being bold.
And you’re implying that being in the outdoors and getting wet and sweaty is not not for girls. My wife would like to knock whoever thinks that on the side of their head.
Adding my two cents (or maybe 3): If a “professional” were to be hired to refine the logo, there’s still the matter of choosing which professional. One members has offered his help, and this is a very generous offer. However, others of us who work in the graphic arts business who have not been as vocal about this topic are also available. Choosing who would work on it opens up a whole ‘nother can of worms. Personally, I am very much against using the copycat version of Washington’s logo. The history of our organization precedes Washington. If we were to adopt their logo as our own, we are forever accepting a “me too” copycat role, when in fact, we were one of the first statewide organizations and we were known for having the best events.
Of course I am biased, but that doesn’t negate the fact that you have the opportunity — in the “small g” logo — to have a very creative, distinctive logo that would help set the WGA apart from other “me too” geocaching organizations. The couple of comments about it being too “girlie” are eye-rollers. Even if two people feel that way, the last time I checked, there are quite a few female geocachers in our organization.
I don’t think the tone of the WGA forums has been bad at all lately. Sure, there have been disagreements here and there, but that’s natural and healthy. Compare it to some of the stuff going on in years past and today’s disagreements look like… well, just disagreements.
@Lostby7 wrote:
Interesting little debate you have going on there….I do hope though that everyone understands, the WGA has no part in cache approval whatsoever. Geocaching.com and it’s appointed approvers are solely responsible for all approvals. The approval process is strictly governed by the rules set by GC. Furthermore all decisions regarding cache approval by local reviewers are subject to appeal if you wish. Weather the Wisconsin approvers are members of the WGA or not is no more relevant than if they belong to a chess club.
A statement to this effect was previously made in these forums and at that time I posted a note to shed more light on the subject. (See http://wi-geocaching.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=56642#56642 )
Since there still seems to be confusion over this, I’d like to re-clarify: The connection does exist. That very connection was one of the main carrots we held out to the Wisconsin DNR when we first approached then-director Sue Black about forming an alliance to develop a geocaching policy for DNR-managed land. We told her and her subordinates that we (the WGA) had the ability to help the DNR in case they wanted a local/regional group they could turn to help enforce specific rules about geocaching on DNR-managed properties. This has been a good working relationship in the years since then and I, as one member of the WGA, don’t want to see the reviewer connection between the WGA and Geocaching.com go away or be swept under the rug. It’s important for the long-term future of geocaching.
@Jeremy wrote:
After some heated discussion, the Board has chosen a “stylized g” logo that we think all Wisconsin geocachers will be satisfied with. As an added bonus, merchandise featuring this logo is readily available in stores and some geocachers may already own it (some people, like green&gold, have more than others :)). And there is a good chance you can pick up something with the new WGA logo (and a French verb starting with F meaning “to waffle”) on clearance or at a garage sale in the near future.
Whoa, Jeremy! Why don’t you just go ahead and diss God and the American Flag while you’re at it? 😆
@Cheesehead Dave wrote:
To stir the pot a little more, I’ll come out and say that I didn’t even vote for mine and was rooting for the stylized “g” logo, mainly for the reason I mentioned in the quoted post above: it looks too much like the WSGA logo.
@greyhounder wrote:
Professional “help” has been discussed.
Yeah, that sounds about right… 😆
I didn’t want to say anything, but since Cheesehead Dave raised the issue himself, I have to agree. It’s a very nice design — for Washington.
I tried to train our dog to geocache but his paws were just too damn clumsy to press the buttons on the GPS. I thought a possible work-around would be to train him to download caches but he strugggled with the finer points of GeoQuick and couldn’t handle plugging in the cables with his teeth.
I don’t create creative cache containers but I admire the ones that I’ve found or read about. Here’s one you may want to check out if you’re ever in the Cedar Falls, Ia., area: GC1DRM6 This looks too cool to last.
I applaud you for posting about returning to a semblance of a balanced life. Lots of people like to joke about being addicted to something, but if you have ever struggled with the effects that any type of addiction can have on you, a family member or close friend, you know it’s not something to take lightly. Geocaching — like any activity — has the potential to take over a life if you let it. I have talked with several geocachers who have experienced this. Some were aware of it; some were not. That’s why I’m never comfortable when newbies are welcomed with statements like “Welcome to the addiction.” Geocaching is a great, wonderful activity that can be good for you. But like all things, moderation is key.
@Timberline Echoes wrote:
Our presentation went very well last night but have two questions for the group.
1.) quick and easy for someone like Jeremy… What was the first WI cache and when and where was it put out?
2.) How do you answer the question, “What is the most favorite “thing” you found in a cache?”
TE
1. Wisconsin’s first geocache was called Geocache (GC3D). It was placed on Aug. 27, 2000 but never found before it went missing and was abandoned by its owner. Jeremy Irish archived it after I notified him that it was missing. Wisconsin’s oldest active geocache is Pike Powder Hike (GC3B1), which I hid on March 2, 2001.
2. cash 😀
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